09-07-2015, 03:50 PM
(09-07-2015, 03:43 PM)Whatever Wrote: Wherever you rank Ben, number wise, he is still a second tier QB. Teams with a truly elite QB are almost guaranteed a playoff berth. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning don't miss the playoffs, no matter what's going on around them. The Steelers have missed the playoffs 3 of the last 6 years, more than demonstrating that Ben is simply not capable of putting a team on his back and carrying them. He has always needed either an elite defense or a stacked supporting cast on offense for the Steelers to be a contender. Saying they have a chance just because they have Ben isn't really rooted in fact.
Similarly, Flacco often plays well in the playoffs, but during the regular season, he is much like Dalton in that he is highly inconsistent. I think that's a valid argument if we're talking who goes further in the playoffs, but not when predicting regular season records.
At first I was going to argue with you on Ben not being first tier, but after reading the whole thing.... it's pretty much spot on and I'm giving you rep. Great points. My only thing with Flacco vs AD is that sometimes I think that some of Flacco's negatives are products of some wacky play from the skill positions. He has had one or two studs, but never someone like an AJ Green in their prime with the exception of Ray Rice.