08-17-2018, 09:10 AM
(08-16-2018, 09:15 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Read the study carefully. They say the word "may" several times. They do not know if the subjects were using just steroids or not using steroids because they based their data intake via self-report. They did not use randomization of subjects, which means those who "claimed" to use steroids may have been using other substances like alcohol, cigarettes. This is not a controlled study. The author also stated "this is the first study of its kind..." So I am confused when you say "This is one study of hundreds."
Long term effects of steroid use is correlation data and not cause and effect. I conducted a national study appointed by Secretary of Health and Human Services for the government years ago. You simply cannot conduct experimental studies at least not ethically. Correlations are descriptive but cannot establish cause and effect. During our study on adolescent steroid users we discovered, that one, some of the users were not using actual steroids but placebo or fake substances because they bought it black market. Most of our subjects took varying dosage of what ever substance they were taking because it was not prescribed by a physician. Dosage and cycling are significant factors. Two, the reliability of self-report studies are suspect. Three, steroid users would combine steroids with other drugs from crystal meth to HGH, to other chemical substances. There are other factors like diet, hydration, family history and genetic factors.
By the way, Ice Cream has been correlated to murder, shark attacks, drownings...
What is "common knowledge" around the gym may be inaccurate. And there is not a single study with definitive proof that steroids increase risk of heart disease. There are many studies that Steroids may elevate LDL and at least temporarily and cause hyperlipidemia but that is not the same as heart disease. There are studies that show when athletes cease taking steroids, the elevated cholesterol is reversed.
I am unaware if Fisher ever tested positive for PED. Did Fisher admit in taking steroids? I personally wouldn't judge Fisher's condition prematurely or assume it is because he did this or that. Medical information is confidential and we do not know his family history or the cause of his condition.
I googled steroid use and heart conditions. There was over a thousand hits. All fake news?
You are right though, I don’t know what has caused his heart condition.
