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(09-07-2015, 08:30 PM)jason Wrote: I think that has more to do with the divisions that these QBs play in.  Ben has had to contend with the Ravens every  year of his career.  Now the Bengals are right there as well.  Peyton Manning had zero competition in the AFC south, and Brady really hasn't either except for that little blip from the Jets for a year or two, and now.  The AFC west is pretty mediocre for Manning to this day.

Dalton is 4-0 in making the playoffs in the same division, and Flacco is 6-1. Ben is 7-4, and trending downwards. After making it 4 of his first 5 years, he's 3-3 in the last six. Correspondingly, that falls in line with Pittsburgh moving away from a defense first/ball control offense which asked him to be a game manager into their current model of trying to make him the star. Also keep in mind that both Dalton and Flacco have led their respective teams to the playoffs four years in a row. Ben has never gotten the Steelers to the playoffs 3 years in a row, let alone four. He also has no playoff wins the past four years, same as Dalton. You can argue better supporting casts for Dalton and Flacco, but isn't the point of an elite QB that they can win games with less talent surrounding him? Particularly in a discussion about regular season records, Ben has simply not proven himself to be a significant enough upgrade over Dalton or Flacco to produce more wins, so unless we're calling Flacco and Dalton elite, there's no reason to put Ben in that category.