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(09-14-2015, 10:22 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: if you can show me how the o line wasn't garbage or receivers were open, I'd like to see it. Did Smith not drop a game winning TD the play before the game inning pick?

Great defense shut down two good QBs. Too much pressure for either to make plays. No receivers open for either QB. Smiths pick 6 wasn't a bad decision by Manning

It's funny that Steve Smith dropping a pass basically changes the narrative from "Great defensive outing and Flacco makes a TD when needed" to "Flacco is garbage and the whole team looked bad". How does that make sense? I'm going to look for the good, especially given the circumstances and the fact that this was the toughest game on our schedule. We walked away a dropped TD from winning. That's not bad.

Meh, I'd have to watch it again but I don't remember obscene amounts of pressure on Flacco, there was definitely SOME though but that happens in literally every NFL game that is played. Even when Joe had a couple seconds, he just looked uncomfortable yesterday. His receivers and line didn't do him any favors, but that doesn't mean that it's impossible for the QB to look bad himself as well, because he did. It's a common logical fallacy used in JN, if other players screw up then somehow it's okay for Andy to screw up too, or it means that his inaccurate passes weren't inaccurate because a receiver dropped a pass 2 quarters ago.

It's cool to look for the good, but this is the Smack Talk forum so you're really going to hear about the bad, and it's probably going to be a bit exaggerated. Flacco didn't put up the worst QB performance I've seen in my lifetime or anything, but to try and defend this so vehemently is just silly. Every QB in the NFL has bad games, and this was definitely one of Flacco's even if it wasn't absolutely atrocious considering the surrounding circumstances. It's this kind of game that I usually stick with "Yep, Andy wasn't good, rest of the offense sucked, onto week 2", because listing a whole bunch of reasons why everyone else sucks to somehow get the heat off Flacco just isn't going to work and shouldn't with the performance he had yesterday. He will have good games in 2015, but week 1 will never be included in that conversation by anyone being rational.

I could totally understand your point if he was making the best out of what he was dealt and it really WAS everyone else around him blowing up, but he was absolutely part of the offensive meltdown.
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