Lets give Marvin credit this season ....

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(10-25-2018, 04:55 AM)BengalYankee Wrote: Not getting snotty. We are friends going way back. We are having a healthy debate among Bengal fans, that is what this website is for right?

We are just speaking two different languages. You say Marvin Lewis is 0-7 in the playoffs, I say we don't even have 7 playoff appearances without Marvin Lewis. I say we are 0-7 with Mike Brown. Facts say we are well, well under .500 with Mike Brown and we are over .500 with Marvin Lewis. AP says Marvin Lewis 2009 coach of the year. Many polls say Mike Brown among  worst owner in Sports.

I am well aware of Tom Coughlin being a New Yorker. I know the Giants organization better then you and their culture for their players/coaches/organization is far, far, far better then the Bengals. What you don't take into consideration are the players/coaches  feel while they come to work Monday-Saturday. Tom Coughlin was a good tough coach, but he would not have retained talent here, nor would he have changed the culture here. Marvin had more respect in the league in 2003 so when Marvin changed the culture, Tom would have been like Shula, Coslett, Dick Lebeau, etc a lackey just happy to have a job. 

I don't care if you had Lombardi or Belicheat[see cleveland browns as coach] in TODAY'S NFL you won't be able to keep quality players if you are cheap. BB has a fine organization and their owner spares no expense in keeping his players comfortable. 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kicker-explains-why-everyone-on-the-patriots-loves-owner-robert-kraft/

The Bengal players don't love Mike Brown, if not for Marvin Lewis they would abandon ship as soon as their contract expired. 

It's the Culture, Culture, Culture!!!!!!

I think you're selling Coughlin short.....remember what he did in Jacksonville?  I mean he took an expansion team to the playoffs in their SECOND SEASON (and won them all but the championship round, btw), went to four straight playoffs during that stretch, a division title in the 3rd year, another in the 4th season, including a shot at the AFCG in the team's 2nd and 4th seasons.  Oh, and I forgot to mention, he did all of this without a GM.....sounds familiar.

I find it hard to fathom that Marvin was held in more esteem than a guy with a phenomenal track record like that.