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(11-11-2018, 11:32 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Oh, I never claimed the Saints weren't good on offense.

My problem was more with the Top-5 and Top-10 threshholds. A 5th ranked offense that has played the Bengals D might not be as good of and offense as a 6th ranked offense who hasn't played the Bengals. The same with 9th-10th versus 11th-12th. The offenses the Bengals went against would still be good, but they would likely drop a rank/a couple ranks if they didn't play the Bengals.

The Saints were a good offense. They were averaging 402 yards and 34.9 points per game. They put up 509 and 51 against the Bengals. Playing against the Bengals D makes them look even better than their already good level.

This guy was trying to make it sound like if it weren't for playing these unstoppable offenses, and if Dennard and Vigil were back, they wouldn't be terrible. It is hard to properly convey how historically bad this defense has been.

1.) The Bengals have played 4 top 5 offenses in the last 4 weeks. Tampa had 500 yards offense today, Brees hasn't been sacked in three weeks, has had 3 other games this season with over 80% completion rate, has won 8 straight games, and has perhaps the top offensive line in the NFL with Two elite RBs, The Steelers just put up over 50 points against the panthers, and the Chiefs have a QB who is having a season that is comparable to only Tom Brady's 2007 season and Peyton Manning 2013 season.  It's not like these teams are not just playing well against us there doing it against the whole NFL.

2.) Really three starters wouldn't make a difference to a team. Especially considering that 2 of those guys have been absent for the last 4 games and another was just comming off a suspension. 
The first 5 games of the year the Bengals averaged 7 YPPA ; while during the last 4 the Bengals have given up 9.4 YPPA. You're telling me that those guys don't make a difference especially  Dennard and Vigil who played a ton in those games. 

 I am not going to dispute that our defense has been bad this season or that it is on a record pace. however what I will acknowledge that know else will is that having major injuries and playing Elite offenses at the same time have been attributing factors to the lack of success.