If GM holding Marvin back, then why has Marvin never left to a better Opportunity/GM?

[BenZoo2]

(11-24-2018, 08:56 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Okay, by "most" I mean a majority.

And I don't think playoff appearances are the end all be all.  I think that would be Championships, and since Marvin took over only 10 NFL teams have won more Championships than the Bengals.  Bengals are 14th in winning seasons, 13th in winning percentage, and 9th in playoff appearances.  There is plenty of evidence that the Bengals have performed better than a majority of the teams.

In fact the only way you can't is to claim that winning a playoff game is the end all be all.  That is because the Bengal victim card value depends on making a playoff win the one and only value used to determin how sucessful a team is.  It is the ONLY way the bengal fan victim card has more value than one from the browns.

The fact is it is absurd to claim that the Browns are the superior franchise just because they won one playoff game 20 years ago.  It is also absurd to claim that a franchise like the Rams have been superior to the Bengals just because they won one playoiff game 15 years ago.   The Rams have only had TWO winning seasons in the last 15 years and have averaged 6 wins per year.  It would be insane to trade one playoff win for 35 more regular season wins, over three times as many winning seasons (7 to 2) and over twice as many playoff appearances (7 to 3).

In fact, you know what will happen as soon as the bengals win a playoff game?  The victims will all claim that one playoff win is meaningless and that anyone happy with just one playoff win is "happy with mediocrity". but until that happens one single playoff win is the single most important factor in determinig which team is the best or worst in the league.

That’s cute an all fred, but it doesn’t change jack squat. Only 10 teams have won a playoff game since Marvin was named coach? Wow. That means 22 teams, of which are one, haven’t done it. Of those 10 teams who have won probably several have won multiple playoff games.

You said championships are the end all be all. You can’t get those unless you reach the playoffs AND ADVANCE ONCE YOU GET THERE.

And I’m not playing a victim card and I didn’t claim the browns or any other team are superior because they have 1 playoff win in 20 years. I don’t really give a shit about other teams ineptitude. I get plenty of it here.

If you want to label the bengals a success based on the stats you posted that’s your prerogative. If you think Marvin is some kind of coaching savant because he has overcome the worst owner in the nfl and has a slightly above .500 winning percentage so be it.

I just wish the bengals would hold themselves to a higher standard


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