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If GM holding Marvin back, then why has Marvin never left to a better Opportunity/GM?
(11-26-2018, 09:45 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: True. I'd say we overachieved in 2009 and Marvin earned that coach of the year award.

That said, we've definitely underachieved more often. 0 playoff wins with teams that included:

Palmer
Dalton
AJ Green
Chad 
Housh
Marvin Jones
Sanu
Boyd
Eifert
Gresham
Whit
Braham
Zeitler
Steinbach
Willie
Justin Smith
Brian Simmons
Atkins
Dunlap
Rudi
Benson
Hill
Gio
Mixon
Burfict
Thurman
Deltha
Tory James
Leon Hall
JJo
Nelson
Bates
etc etc

It's inexcusable. Instead of talking about free agency, how about we talk about all the talent we had that was wasted?

That is actually not a lot of talent spread out over 15 years.

Marvin has had 17 position players selected to the Pro Bowl and 4 who were All Pro.  Over the same period of time the Steelers have had 27 and 10.  Ravens have had 26 and 13.  Even one of the worst teams in the league over that span, the buffalo Bills, had 22 players selected to the Pro Bowl.
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RE: If GM holding Marvin back, then why has Marvin never left to a better Opportunity/GM? - fredtoast - 11-26-2018, 10:15 PM

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