If GM holding Marvin back, then why has Marvin never left to a better Opportunity/GM?

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(11-28-2018, 12:55 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: This has always been some of the most damning evidence against Marv. You simply don't go from "enough talent to win 10+ games" to "shut out 4 times (out of 7) in the 2nd half of playoff games". Not with the players I listed. Not with Palmer, Dalton, Chad, AJ, Eifert, Gio, Marvin Jones, Housh, Benson, etc.

The free agency excuse is waifer thin when you consider these facts. A free agent might help us if we were competitive. We haven't been. Only 1 playoff game was even within 1 score. And what difference is a big free agent going to make when Marv can't even get guys like Atkins and AJ Green to produce like themselves? 

That's the dirty little secret we ignore while pining for free agents every March. We crave any reason for hope, but with Marvin Lewis, there is none. The guy has proven for almost 2 decades that he can't get it done. End. Of. Story.


Um, yes that is a lot of talent.

And your Pro Bowl stat is once again misleading. Please list the number of Pro Bowls...not the "players" named to the Pro Bowl.

For example, Chad Johnson made the Pro Bowl 6 times. How many Bills players made it that many times?


More double-speak from Fred. When his argument requires it, we got a "ton" of talent. When defending Marv, we didn't have enough to win playoff games.

The Pro Bowl argument is priceless.  The Bengals actually have more former Pro Bowlers on the roster this year than the Steelers.

For another, our Pro Bowl numbers are deflated because of Marvin's complete and utter inability to get this team to perform in primetime.  If you're a casual fan of another team and only watch the 1-2 primetime games the Bengals have per year, how many of our guys would you vote for?