If GM holding Marvin back, then why has Marvin never left to a better Opportunity/GM?

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(11-28-2018, 08:15 PM)fredtoast Wrote: My point has been that the Bengals have been among the better teams in the league despite being handicapped by having the worst owner in the league.  

To me that indicates that our coaches are not among the worst in the league.

This makes no sense.  You can't say that the Bengals have been among the better teams in the league despite having the worst owner in the league when said owner is the one ultimately responsible for the product on the field.  All of these coaches were ultimately hired by Mikey, so if you're saying they're good to great coaches, you have to give Mikey credit for that by extension.  You have to also give Mikey an insane amount of credit for recognizing the genius of Marvin and not firing him when every other owner in the league would have sent him packing a long time ago.  However, you've also admitted that the Bengals have had great drafts so the basis of your argument seems to be Brown is a terrible owner because he doesn't bring in top shelf free agents even though the Steelers are more successful and don't sign top shelf FA's, either.

You can argue Marvin coaching up bad rosters until you're blue in the face, but if that was true, he would not have the pathetic prime time record he has.  That is a direct result of poor coaching.