Marvins work with defense finally having effect.

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Going back to the draft I defended Mayfield. He is not a criminal and he has a ton of talent. I don't blame the Brown's for taking him number one.

But people who think a punk attitude makes a better QB are clueless. Great leaders are players who work hard and lead by example. The "attitude" or "swagger" has nothing to do with it. Montana, Marino, Manning, Young, Brees, Rodgers, none of those guys acted like jerks.