09-17-2015, 07:22 PM
(09-17-2015, 07:19 PM)Penn Wrote: The vine video controlling the speed and ability to go frame by frame isn't there. I'd like to have a look at that as a download to harddrive file so I can play it in a player with those capabilities. The best I could do is the link in the thread here and using a downloader but the picture is smaller. The smaller form show Coopers hand making contact and staying in place. When people punch or hit in that fashion, no one I know of leaves their hand in place as well as overall it looks like he began to "directly engage" Jones in a block since their bodies come together and don't separate. The larger I'd like to see in a player because it appears, as is, Cooper MAY HAVE been going for Jones' shoulder pad but Jones himself may have caused Cooper's hand to go higher.
Part of the reason I do understand Adam's reaction is he did seem to be slowing down when he saw the ball carrier go out of bounds but Amari, who might not have seen it since he was squaring to directly engage, continued full blast. Not saying Jones was right or wrong there, but I understand getting angry.
The only place I disagree is the question of legality. Was it clean? I'd say no. Was it legal? Barring what I asked for above to further review I don't see any evidence. SHOULD it be illegal (the stiff arm)? No. Hands to the face needs to be expanded to include all stiff arms.
Agreed. I remember when I lived in the Chiefs market I'd see them against the Raiders twice a year. The Chiefs players in later years would admit to instigating outburst by certain players (like Chester McGlockton) to either draw penalties or get them fighting with each other.
Good points as well....that would certainly be definitive. I'd also like to see the missing bit of film between them engaging, and the takedown.
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