12-03-2018, 06:58 PM
(12-03-2018, 06:19 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Rex Ryan was handed a loaded roster and got 2 winning seasons out of it. He did not have a single winning season in his last 6 years as a head coach. He is not an upgrade over Marvin.
Every single player on the Jets O-line went to a Pro Bowl at some point in his career and 2 of them were multiple All Pro selections (Faneca and Mangold). Both hi FB (Tony Richardson) and his RB (Thomas Jones) were Pro Bowl players plus they had Shonn Green who would have 2 thousand yard rushing seasons. They added Pro Bowl WR Braylon Edwards the year Ryan arrived.
They also added 4 new starters on defense in free agency when Ryan arrived including 2 Pro Bowl players (LB Bart Scott, CB Lito Sheppard). They already had Pro Bowl DE Shaun Ellis, and All Pro CB Darrelle Revis.
That team was loaded.
And you don’t believe any of the success of those player was related to coaching? Marvin’s has some pretty damn good talent to work with and not succeed with it.
Do you honestly think the Jets team that beat us to sneak into and then beat us it the playoffs was a better team? I don’t, they were trash. Rex was simply better when it mattered most than Marvin was. Head to head with a worst team he won, twice.
I would argue some of his teams were better than any team the Jets ever fielded to the point they should have been super bowl caliper teams only to fail in the first round of the playoffs.
Some of this was bad luck like lossing Carson on the first play of the game or not having dalton going into the playoffs to start but 0-7 is just to nuch evidence to keep coming up with excuses for.
I’m not sure there is a clear cut winner here and we could argue infinitely and it wouldn’t matter.
What I do know is no other coach has been give as much time as Marvin to succeed in the post season and not ever do so. That is not arguable period. Anyone who attempts to do so is a fool and trolling for the sake of doing so.
I’m leaving it at that cause taking this any further with you will only lead us down past roads I’d rather not go down. I respect you feel differently but I disagree.
