Whitworth-Bengals lowballed

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(12-05-2018, 01:55 AM)Whatever Wrote: No, I caught that earlier.  It's hard to say based on that how much he would have realistically earned.  How much was guaranteed at signing, how much was salary, how much was incentives, and how easy were the incentives to reach?  It really doesn't matter, because he was going to get more guaranteed money with the multi-year deal with the Rams than any one year deal the Bengals would realistically offer.  It still offered at least an opportunity to earn more than he did the year prior, and not a lot of teams are giving well paid 34 year old trench players pay raises, but again, we don't know how much he realistically would have made.

I think a lot of it was Paul Alexander and he supposedly beat his fist on the table for Og and Fisher in the draft.  For the Bengals, you knew Whit was getting up there, you planned to replace him, and Piano Man didn't have any high round busts to that point.  Paul probably bamboozled Mikey with some "Last year was basically his rookie year," "They were banged up,""LT is his natural position," BS to avoid looking incompetent.  I think that ultimately cost him his job.

It isn't as bad as JJo because JJo was in his prime.  Whit is realistically on borrowed time and it's freakish that he's as good as he is at his age.

Well, the max was $10m. That's if he hit ALL of his incentives. If it was really easy to hit all of his incentives, they wouldn't have made them incentives, and he wouldn't have called it a lowball offer. No matter how many of them he hit, it was still going to be less Year 1 money than the other four offers.

The Bengals are historically a very low signing bonus team. Andy Dalton got a $12m signing bonus. Andrew Luck got $32m, Cam Newton got $22.5m, Russell Wilson got $31m, Joe Flacco got $40m, Alex Smith got $27m.

You can say it was a "raise" all you want, but that is only if he hit every single incentive. You can also say "not a lot of teams" would give him a raise, but 4 did offer him raises. They were all offering roughly the same deal, with only the Bengals being significantly lower.

No matter how much you keep trying to spin it.