09-18-2015, 07:32 AM
(09-18-2015, 12:54 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Going against your team doesn't always mean you're the only one being "objective". I'm calling it how I see it as well.
I think Cooper clearly started it with the dirty "stiff arm". Then he pretty clearly took a swing at Pacman as that clip ended.
Did Jones go a bit far? Maybe, but he was justified to retaliate IMO. Hopefully next time they go about it in a smarter manner though.
The thing that bothered me was everyone up in arms because Cooper "punched Jones in the throat". If you pause the Vine, you can clearly see that it's not a punch and not his throat.
I think being objective isn't automatically defending the other team but being able to recognize video evidence of something where you can clearly see Cooper's palm open (hence not a punch or jab) and clearly see his hand on the face mask (not his throat).
I know you're buddies with jj, but you didn't have to jump in and say that I "wasn't truthful" when I was clearly the one correct in our argument. It was an illegal stiff arm to the face mask, and the video 100% proves that.
I'm not even defending what Cooper did to him, I thought he deserved blasted for the hair pulling, palming his face with quite a bit of force like he did, and then like everyone said it looks like he swung at Jones in some capacity when the video is cutting off. That's messed up and deserves retaliation.
The only things I've said in this thread is 1. Jones should have retaliated on a later play between the whistles. 2. The one "punch to the throat" that got everyone fired up wasn't a punch to the throat.
I think that's being pretty reasonable here and pretty far from blindly defending Cooper and/or bashing Jones. People need glasses if they can't see that stiff arm or else they just refuse to pause the Vine because it would hurt their argument.
