09-18-2015, 10:17 AM
(09-18-2015, 10:08 AM)Wyche Wrote: Gotcha....as I said earlier.....I hadn't read through all of the replies here, and I would take your word that was indeed the case. I've never known you to be dishonest on anything you post. Confrontational and combative? You betcha!.....but not dishonest.
This post makes it clearer for me now....I was under the impression that you were arguing that there wasn't the potential for a punch to the neck area at all, instead, you guys are arguing about WHEN it may have happened. You'll have to forgive me....been a crazy week at work...30 hours in two days, plus the regular 10 all the rest. I'm starting to run on fumes....my mind isn't grasping simple concepts....lol.
I played up through the high school level....I can certainly understand the anger and high emotion that led Jones to do what he did. It may have been over the top....but I can relate to where he's coming from....the intensity at this level must be unimaginable.
Yeah, I have no doubt that Cooper deserved roughed up at some point (I just personally wish it would have happened during a play), but as others said the thing I'm most worried about is when Jones said that he "can't promise it won't happen again".
The only thing that has really bothered me is that a lot of people throughout many threads on these boards have been referring to that stiff arm as a "throat punch", even after watching the Vine and other clips of the incident. You can clearly see an open hand and the fact that he didn't touch Jones' throat. As far as any other portion of the incident goes, I haven't really been involved with arguments discussing that stuff. I just maintain that I really wish he would have let it go and then blasted Cooper on one of the next plays instead. If the officials actually saw the fight and Jones push Cooper head into the helmet, he would have 100% been ejected from the game. We don't need that from our best CB.
The thing that bothered me the most about the exchanges that I've been having is when Shake flat out said that "That'd be way too easy (and truthful)" when referring to myself and anybody else refusing to call the specific portion of the incident a "throat punch". That's not cool.
You and I have always been cool on here, Shake and JJ were guys I consistently had great discussions with and agreed on a lot of stuff, especially for the few months before the old board shut down. There aren't many people here that I legitimately dislike, it's just a message board, but I must say that it's sad to see JJ acting different now than he did before. There are no more good arguments, everything that he says just contradicts what he's saying in a different thread or else he just posts to instigate by bashing part of the fanbase with almost every post on here. It is what it is, I guess.
