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3-4 Defense?
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(12-21-2018, 10:02 AM)Au165 Wrote: I have been considering the idea that, if by some miracle, we got a new coach would they move this defense to a 3-4? I actually think we have the personnel to do it, and it may actually suit us better.

D Line:

The obvious advantage here is we get to play Billings as more of his natural 0 technique heads up over a center. I think this is where he would shine. We then kick Atkins out to play DE, which for him won't be that much different then his current roll if we do it as a single gap scheme like an over front. The biggest change will be Dunlap who also will play DE but in a slightly different roll than he is used to as this new roll will put him more inside but with the advantage of being matched up against a guard. With Geno on the other side he will get single looks against the guard most often as the additional outside rusher will come from his side the majority of the time I'd guess.

Starters: Atkins, Billings, Dunlap
Back Ups: Willis, Tupou, TBD/Glasgow/Brown

Rush Linebackers/OLB:

This is where I think we get our advantage from the move. We have two chess pieces that we can stand up and move around who offer some versatility. First we have Sam Hubbard who has shown he can kind of do it all this year. He has shown athleticism playing on special teams, FB, and rushing the passer from multiple positions. I think we can use him as a rusher as well as put him in coverage, and relative to other 3-4 OLBs he would probably excel at that. The other forgotten piece of this is Carl Lawson. While he won't offer as much in terms of coverage, when it comes to being a 3-4 OLB you really don't have to be great in coverage and there are ways to hide a single poor coverage OLB. I figure that Lawson would play the "Jack" linebacker and Hubbard the "Sam". With Hubbard and Lawson on the field along with our three down linemen we now have options to get creative with all our best pass rushers on the field at the same time.

Starters: Lawson, Hubbard
Back Ups: Will need veterans or draft picks

Inside Linebackers:

The other advantage to the move I believe is the talent needed to play inside linebacker in a 3-4 is slightly different. You can have a little less athletic linebackers inside because of the guys outside being up and able to play a bit more laterally than down linemen. I think Vigil could play the "Will" and control the backside using his ability to run down guys to his advantage being a bit more inside. The "Mike" position would require us to either draft someone or roll with Burfict one last time. I'd prefer to cut Burfict and draft a guy like White or Wilson in the first to take on this roll.

Starters: Rookie, Vigil
Back Ups: Evans, Nickerson

Overall the thing we gain is more pass rushing talent on the field at the same time. The other thing it let's us do is get a bit more creative moving guys around in the pre snap. I have always envied the disguising you can do in a 3-4 that isn't as easy to do with the 4-3. I would also be curious how much this would improve our run defense as a lot of the top run defenses in the league implement a 3-4.

I'm 100% for it !

(12-21-2018, 10:07 AM)Wyche Wrote: I agree....hadn't really thought about our personnel like that, but it could work.  I've wanted to switch it up for a while, but was concerned over whether we had the personnel or not.  The way you put it here, it looks like it could work much better than I thought.

Except for one piece......hell to the no on Nickerson.  I've seen enough.

Agree on Nickerson. He may be the worst I've ever seen play the game.
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3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 10:02 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-21-2018, 10:07 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - bengalfan74 - 12-21-2018, 02:26 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Interceptor - 12-21-2018, 10:22 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - ochocincos - 12-21-2018, 10:36 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 10:40 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - THE PISTONS - 12-21-2018, 11:07 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Truck_1_0_1_ - 12-21-2018, 11:07 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - ochocincos - 12-21-2018, 11:12 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 11:20 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Socal Bengals fan - 12-23-2018, 01:23 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Sled21 - 12-21-2018, 11:17 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 11:22 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Sled21 - 12-21-2018, 11:23 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 11:24 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Sled21 - 12-21-2018, 11:30 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Fullrock - 12-21-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 11:55 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Fullrock - 12-21-2018, 12:14 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Sled21 - 12-21-2018, 12:44 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 12:50 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - SunsetBengal - 12-21-2018, 06:26 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 07:08 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - grampahol - 12-22-2018, 02:35 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - THE PISTONS - 12-21-2018, 01:52 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - bengalfan74 - 12-21-2018, 02:31 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Fullrock - 12-21-2018, 02:16 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - bfine32 - 12-21-2018, 07:23 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - BengalChris - 12-21-2018, 02:17 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - sandwedge - 12-21-2018, 03:25 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - THE PISTONS - 12-22-2018, 01:10 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - J24 - 12-22-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - J24 - 12-21-2018, 03:23 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - J24 - 12-21-2018, 03:53 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-21-2018, 06:19 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - TheUberHuber - 12-21-2018, 04:47 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Yojimbo - 12-21-2018, 05:32 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - The Caped Crusader - 12-21-2018, 05:43 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 05:44 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - J24 - 12-21-2018, 07:04 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - muskiesfan - 12-21-2018, 05:35 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-21-2018, 07:25 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 07:32 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Synric - 12-21-2018, 07:58 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Au165 - 12-21-2018, 08:15 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - SunsetBengal - 12-21-2018, 07:45 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-21-2018, 08:30 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - SunsetBengal - 12-21-2018, 08:35 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - TheLeonardLeap - 12-21-2018, 08:54 PM
3-4 Defense? - ochocincos - 12-22-2018, 10:58 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - bfine32 - 12-23-2018, 01:22 AM
3-4 Defense? - ochocincos - 12-23-2018, 10:31 AM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Socal Bengals fan - 12-23-2018, 01:22 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - SunsetBengal - 12-23-2018, 01:32 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - ochocincos - 12-26-2018, 12:18 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - CJD - 12-26-2018, 12:21 PM
RE: 3-4 Defense? - Synric - 12-26-2018, 12:25 PM

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