I think I know what might be really hindering this franchise. ( I might be wrong)

[CJD]

(01-02-2019, 01:56 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: Palmer was good before injury but elite, he also played plenty of years after injury so it did not hold him back and look at his overall success as a QB, had had 1 playoff win in his 14 year career far removed from elite.  Finally you use the word elite way to broadly.  How many elite QBs really are there in a given decade... If you have 32 teams, really you are lucky to have 20 percent of those QBs be considered elite.  Not like the other 80 percent of teams is crop liver.  Todays game has changed, teams are going from basement to division title town the next year without elite QBs.. Maybe Dalton was held back by Marvin...We will really find out with Dalton with a new coach if he can move the needle.. Carson had 3/4 coaches I believe during his career and never did move the needle .

At the end of 2004 and for all of 2005, Carson was legitimately elite. He was never the same after Kimo rolled over his knee.
It was a very small window, but it was there.

As for elite QBs in the NFL, maybe it has more to do with young, cheap QBs. 

The Ravens, Texans, Chiefs, Rams, Cowboys, Eagles and Bears are helmed by rookie contract QBs.

The Saints, Patriots, Colts, Chargers and Seahawks are led by QBs who are all in the top 12 of QB rating this year.

In total, 9 of the top 12 QBs are playoff QBs, with just the Ravens, Bears and Cowboys QBs falling below the top 12.

Today's NFL definitely revolves around QBs.