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There ya go Mike Brown ...
(01-25-2019, 05:00 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: See, I completely disagree with this. I don’t think Bill would have won with just anyone. He missed the playoffs the one year he didn’t have Brady. They were 16-0 the year before...

I mean, we’ve seen other HC’s that were insanely dominant like Lombardi, but has there ever been another QB as dominant as Brady? 9 SB appearances...

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I see this argument a lot, and the easy counter is this: when they "missed the playoffs" the Pats went 11-5. In most years, that's good enough to win a division. We should acknowledge how fluky that was, rather than pretend the Pats were terrible without Brady. Some Bengals fans consider 2005 one of our greatest seasons, and we were 11-5, same as the Pats with Cassel.

Also, if you're going to bring up 16-0, it's just as easy to bring up that the Pats went 10-6 after Brady came back. Either way though, Belichick had the Pats at 11-5 with Matt "friggin" Cassel. If anything, that helps the pro-Belichick crowd. 

As for the 9 Super Bowls, heck yeah it's beyond impressive. That said, I wonder how many Montana would have if defenders weren't allowed to pummel him to oblivion. Or if Walsh had stuck around. It's just a combination of greatness combined with longevity and brilliant coaching. It's something that's really not been possible up to this point.
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There ya go Mike Brown ... - bengalguy71 - 01-21-2019, 12:15 AM
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RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Sled21 - 01-21-2019, 12:21 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - rfaulk34 - 01-21-2019, 12:24 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Bengalbug - 01-21-2019, 12:27 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - rfaulk34 - 01-21-2019, 12:30 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - GodFather - 01-21-2019, 12:34 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Go Cards - 01-21-2019, 12:51 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Nately120 - 01-21-2019, 12:46 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - rfaulk34 - 01-21-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Nately120 - 01-21-2019, 12:55 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - rfaulk34 - 01-21-2019, 01:02 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Beaker - 01-21-2019, 01:11 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Fullrock - 01-21-2019, 09:24 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - dr tarzan - 01-21-2019, 10:09 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Beaker - 01-21-2019, 12:59 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Nately120 - 01-21-2019, 01:21 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Fullrock - 01-21-2019, 04:03 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Nately120 - 01-21-2019, 04:17 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - TKUHL - 01-21-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Nately120 - 01-21-2019, 04:19 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - XenoMorph - 01-21-2019, 06:36 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Go Cards - 01-22-2019, 01:00 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Go Cards - 01-22-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Joelist - 01-21-2019, 12:49 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - rfaulk34 - 01-21-2019, 01:03 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Whatever - 01-21-2019, 01:34 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - XenoMorph - 01-21-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - 3wt - 01-21-2019, 03:41 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - XenoMorph - 01-21-2019, 06:38 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - t3r3e3 - 01-21-2019, 01:07 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Go Cards - 01-21-2019, 01:32 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Nately120 - 01-21-2019, 12:58 AM
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RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - McC - 01-21-2019, 12:37 PM
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RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - t3r3e3 - 01-21-2019, 01:12 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - grampahol - 01-21-2019, 09:27 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Big Boss - 01-21-2019, 10:00 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - sandwedge - 01-21-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Nately120 - 01-21-2019, 01:16 PM
There ya go Mike Brown ... - Bronxbengal - 01-21-2019, 08:11 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Whatever - 01-21-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Whatever - 01-22-2019, 12:37 PM
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RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - McC - 01-22-2019, 10:19 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - McC - 01-23-2019, 11:49 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - McC - 01-24-2019, 09:14 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Nately120 - 01-22-2019, 10:46 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - McC - 01-23-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - McC - 01-23-2019, 01:18 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - McC - 01-29-2019, 06:58 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - grampahol - 01-24-2019, 06:52 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - McC - 01-24-2019, 08:06 PM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - rfaulk34 - 01-28-2019, 01:24 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - grampahol - 01-28-2019, 11:52 AM
RE: There ya go Mike Brown ... - Whatever - 01-25-2019, 05:15 PM
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