I expect the coaching changes to give Dalton a new lease on his Bengals life

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(01-31-2019, 02:35 PM)BengalChris Wrote: It wasn't like that. Anderson had two passing titles by the time he was in the league 5 years. And at that point there was only 1 wild card team and 3 division champs who made the playoffs. It was much more difficult to make the post season back then.


And even then Anderson was crucified by fans when he had a bad game. I remember it well. In his MVP year he was removed midway through the first game.


I am hard on Dalton, but doesn't include any hate at all. Mentioning his playoffs stats is not hate, it's just stating the stats of the most important games. They are what they are.

I do object to people elevating him above Anderson or Boomer as today's era has made offense and the passing game so much easier. Most of Anderson's passing yards came in an era when receivers could be mugged all the way down the field. Comparing yards from today to yards of yesteryear is like comparing people's pay today with the number of dollars they made 40 years ago. The basis is way off, the yards are inflated.

If you want to talk playoff appearances, 3 of Dalton's 4 would not have occurred in the 70s or 80s as there was no 6th seed until 1990. Just to put things in perspective.

What I do like about Dalton is that he's team player, he does play pretty well generally. That's a lot more than I can say for guys like RG III, Krapernick and others.

All true, and I didn't consider the non playoff years in my very generalized post.  However, it is widely accepted that Gregg came in and cleaned up a bad culture.  I wasn't around in Kenny's early days.

There are plenty of guys like you that are objective about Andy, I hope you know I wasn't directing at you, or anyone else that looks at the situation like that.  I hope I've at least conveyed that to you in our numerous discussions on him.  I look at him objectively too, I feel anyways.  No one is disputing the postseason numbers....how could you?  I'm certainly not saying he's Kenny or Boomer, trust me.

Now, if this new staff comes in and cleans up the drive killing penalties and lack of discipline by others, and Dalton flourishes, and even wins a playoff game or two, then I think ya gotta give the man his due.  If he sinks, then we'll know it was partially him and partially Marvin that led to our demise in the playoffs so often.  Personally, I don't feel the team had what it took to even be in the playoffs in '11, but damned if they didn't make it in anyway.  I feel like Marvin just tightened up when the pressure was on for whatever reason, and his team reflected that.  Excited to see of the new regime can change that.