{The Ultimate ANDY DALTON Mega Thread}

[Shake n Blake]

(09-24-2015, 12:51 PM)djs7685 Wrote: Question about the bold. What compelling arguments do the "Andy is top 10" crowd even have? I don't understand that whatsoever. I can understand when people think he's close, hell, I'm an "Andy hater" and I have him at 12-13 and that's not even me considering anything in the 2015 so far! Back to the point though..

Flacco and Eli don't have the best regular season stats, but they had great postseason runs. Ryan, Rivers, and Romo may not have the playoff appearances/wins/performances but they've been clearly better in the regular season. Wilson doesn't have the inflated volume of other top QBs, but has been clearly better than most in almost every possible way otherwise. Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger aren't even questionable. That's 11 guys right there that are just not debatable that are better than Andy. Even if you find a way to nitpick 1 guy like Eli or Flacco, he's still outside the top 10. That's not even bringing up the fact that there are other guys in the middle tier that some random people will throw in the top 10 like your occasional Stafford sighting.

The only way to "see why some believe he's there" is if you ignore anything that actually matters when it comes to evaluating a QB. Let's be honest, you're just trying to be nice to this guy because you like him as a poster. There is NO legitimate reason to believe he's a top 10 QB, and he hasn't been at any point in his career. No one outside of a few whacked out Bengals homers have believed so, and that will hopefully end in 2015. I think he can get there after a great season this year, but let's just not sugarcoat things for the sake of a poster you used to like and let's call it as it is in reality.

I don't believe there's a compelling argument that Dalton is a top 10 QB yet. That's why I used the "or close to it" qualifier.

All I was saying there is that I can see why someone would think that. If you just look at his record as a starting QB, some of the franchise records he's set, going to a couple Pro Bowls, winning a POM award (essentially an MVP of the month), etc.

Now don't get it twisted, I'm not saying they're RIGHT to believe he's top 10, and I could sit here and rip apart all the reasons I just listed. I'm just saying I get why some would think he's close even if I disagree. I guess saying I understand why some think he's already there would be a stretch.

Btw, please stop bringing up who you think I like as a poster. It doesn't influence my opinion, and fwiw I like you as a poster - when you're not in full attack mode.