IF White is gone, who do you pick?

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(03-26-2019, 07:25 PM)Au165 Wrote: Yea, we will simply disagree. Vander Esch completely changed Dallas’s defense this year. White/Bush/Wilson are all about on par with his rating coming out last year White higher with bush and Wilson right around him. The NFL goes in these weird cycles where they claim a position unimportant until someone overhauls there team with it (Guard,Hb, LB). Jefferson is crap and what’s left in FA is the same stop gap approach we have taken to LB for a decade. The fall off from the top three to the next tier is substantial.

Where you take a guy doesn’t matter if they end up being all pro. If we had taken Leonard last year in the first no one now would care now that he was projected as a second round pick going in to the draft. This idea of “projections” and “overdrafting” is dumb. There are no guarantees you’ll get a second crack at your guy so you take them when you can. If we went back at time and took Geno in the first instead of the fourth I don’t think anyone would care today.

Dallas had the #8 overall defense in 2017 and was #7 last year.  Vander Esch is a great player, but he was another piece in an already great defense.  He did not transform anything.  He was also rated significantly higher than Bush or Wilson.  Dude was 6'4", 250+ when he came out.  Bush is 5'11", 230+ and you want to take him 8 spots higher?

Bush and Wilson are highly unlikely to become All Pro's.  If they had a good chance to become All Pro's, I wouldn't have an issue taking them at #11.  Neither is going to be anywhere close to the best player left on the board at #11.  Neither is going to magically transform the defense.  

People will always retroactively complain if they could have gotten the same player later.  Draft position and projections also greatly change fan perception of a player.  If John Ross was a 5th round pick, people would universally be screaming for him to be getting more opportunities.  People wouldn't still be holding out hope for Billings becoming a dominant NT if he hadn't been projected as a 1st round pick.  If Price was another 4th round C, people wouldn't make nearly the excuses for his poor play as a rookie.  Rey Maualuga was thought to have been used wrong for years due to his Top 10 projection.