IF White is gone, who do you pick?

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(03-27-2019, 12:02 AM)Whatever Wrote: So Kris Richard gets no credit for the Dallas D?  Again, Dallas had a good defense last year and Vander Esch certainly helped, but he was not transformative by any stretch.  Your comment made it sound like they had a bad defense and suddenly became good with his addition, which isn't the case.

You realize Vander Esch would be LB1 in this class, right?  Vander Esch had a 6.25 prospect rating.  Devin White has a 6.24 rating.  Devin Bush has a 6.03 rating and Mack Wilson has a 5.84.  So, no, I wouldn't have an issue with Vander Esch at #11.  For what it's worth, Dalton Risner who you've talked wanting in the 2nd is rated 6.05, higher than Bush or Wilson.  You keep trying to equate Bush to Vander Esch, but he's not close as a prospect.  The only reason they were projected to go in the same range is this is a weak LB class with a steep drop off and draftniks are pushing Bush up on their big boards because they think someone will reach for him out of desperation.  Conversely, Vander Esch was part of a stacked LB class.

I'm simply going to agree to disagree on this one.

Okay, let's move off Vander Esch then for a second as the specific player doesn't really matter for what I'm trying to say and you are hung up on that piece. Let's use Dareous Leonard as the person instead and maybe this will make more sense. Since you like using NFL.com ratings he was a 5.83. That would make him rated lower than Wilson or Bush and he definitely played a role in transforming the Colts defense. He was a first team all pro as a rookie.  

Had you taken him last year in the 1st, would you have been mad knowing what he'd be? You said there is no way you take a 4-3 LB projected as a late first early second at 11 (What Leonard was and where he went), but I think almost anyone in the NFL who needed a LB would have taken Leonard at 11 last year if they knew then what they know now. The point is the skill is the skill, don't get hung up on projections or rankings. It happens all the time where people say guys "reach" but it's only a reach if they don't work out.