04-13-2019, 02:22 PM
(04-12-2019, 07:04 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: And I’m telling you he hasn’t. Dalton has won zero playoff games, and it not highly thought of outside Cincinnati. Trust me I’ve tried to defend him over the years to those that think he’s he’s even worse than he is. Remember the “Dalton Line?”
Funny you bring up all the good QB’ in 2015 and conveniently leave out Palmer, who had an MVP caliber season that year.
Based on what? Show me some statistics to back up such a claim, because I've shown you plenty that strike it down. Talk about the "Dalton Line" if you want, on a statistical level Palmer's been below it. Do you really think Palmer is all that highly thought of outside of Cincinnati or (maybe) Phoenix? How about in Oakland? Because I doubt most fans even think of him when naming great QBs of the last decade.
If you want to stake your claim to Palmer being the better QB solely on the fact that he has a whopping one playoff win, fine... at least that's something. I'd counter that Palmer then followed that up with a six turnover game to take his team right back out of contention. It's not like Carson's been a great postseason QB either.
I didn't mention Palmer in 2015, but it doesn't change anything - neither one of them were going to be mentioned as being among the best QBs because of all those other names I mentioned. It was a lot easier for Palmer to be held up as one of those guys in 2005 because there were a lot less of those guys at the time, and even then those notions had faded within a couple of years.
Remember, this whole conversation started when it was stated that you'd have to be "delusional" (not stated by you, to be fair) to think Andy was a better QB than Carson. At the very least I think people should at least be able to see these stats and numbers and say that's simply an exaggeration. The difference isn't that great at all.
Carson was one of the most frustrating players I've ever watched, and I say that as a guy who still has an autographed jersey of his hanging up in my house.
