Mike says Dalton should "re-establish himself" but FO needs to establish themselves

[Shake n Blake]

(05-11-2019, 08:54 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: As far as managements commitment to winning...which NFL Teams would allow a coach that was 0-7 in the playoffs 3 more years to try to win one?

Yeah...only 1. In most cities, if you don't win a playoff game in 3-4-5 years...they fire you.

In Cincy, you make the playoffs and lose and they write articles on the main team website about how they have developed a model that other teams will copy.

Spot on. Just the fact that Marvin kept his job for so long shows you how high (or low) this FO's standards are.

(05-12-2019, 03:16 AM)Whatever Wrote: That makes no sense.

If the team on the field is our "product", then a .500 team would be considered a perfectly average quality product.  Marvin had a .518 regular season win %, so basically average product quality.  The average Bengals ticket is around $78 and league average for a ticket is a little over $100.  If you're producing average quality products and charging 22% less than average, your product is a great bargain for consumers and you'll move units.  You can charge high end prices, but if you're products are average to poor quality, you'll struggle.  You can also produce crappy products, but if you charge low prices you'll have a market.

For any normal business, nobody is saying "I'm not spending my money on that because that company hasn't produced a product in the top 25% in quality in 27 years."  It's honestly a completely irrational thought process that only really happens in sports fandom.  

When you factor in post-season, I'm not so sure we were even average. 

Also, it's kinda silly to compare a sports franchise to a normal business. McDonald's doesn't get shared revenue with Burger King and get to pick the top cooks in the Restaurant Draft when they have a poor year. In a league designed for parity, the Bengals not having any playoff wins in almost 3 decades is a good indicator that they're doing something wrong, and fans/customers are smart enough to pick up on that. Hence poor ticket sales even with "affordable" tickets.

They've struggled to sell out games despite having one of the league's smallest stadiums.