Interesting take from Hobspin on AFCN

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(06-10-2019, 08:24 AM)Sled21 Wrote: but how many good QB's have the Brown's brought into the Factory of Sadness and destroyed their careers.....

Um...none?  An argument could be made that Tim Couch could have done much better had he not been drafted by an expansion team Browns in 1999 and Brady Quinn wasn't hopeless, but other than that the Browns have started a total of 0 QBs that were good.  Look at this list, you have a bunch of crappy vets, later round picks, and/or guys they took in the bottom half of round 1 who had massive red flags (unless you really think Manziel would have been a good QB if any other team picked him).  How many QBs on this list were good but ruined by the Browns in your opinion?  Again, I don't think Baker Mayfield is Jeebus on toast, but I don't look at him and see another Spergon Wynn or Jake Delhomme any more than Palmer/Dalton was just another David Klingler or Scott Mitchell.


1999 Tim Couch (14) / Ty Detmer (2)
2000 Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
2001 Tim Couch (16)
2002 Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2003 Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
2004 Jeff Garcia (10) / Luke McCown (4) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2005 Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
2006 Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1)
2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2)
2016 Cody Kessler (8) / Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3)
2017 DeShone Kizer (15) / Kevin Hogan (1)
2018 Baker Mayfield (13) / Tyrod Taylor (3)


But seriously, we've been pretty set at QB for the past 15+ years. Which QBs on the Browns list would you have traded straight-up for Palmer or Dalton?