In 1992, IF the Bengals hired 2004 Marvin Lewis instead of Dave Shula...

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(06-12-2019, 01:02 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This is just ridiculous.

For 12 years (with 3 different head coaches) the Bengals don't have a single winning season and average less than 5 wins a year.  They are the worst team (by 13 losses) over that period.  Then they hire Marvin and over the next 13 years have only 3 losing seasons with the 8th best regular season winning percenrtage in the league. 

And some of you are trying to claim coaching had nothing to do with it?

C'mon, Marvin inherited a TWO WIN team and immediately lost his best player on offense (Dillon) and defense (Spikes).  He did not have a losing season for 5 years after the team had had a losing record 11 of the 12 seasons before he arrived.

Shula took over a team that had a lot more talented players than Marvin did...4 guys who were selcted All Pro during their career, Boomer Esiason, DT Tim Krumrie, Safety David Fulcher, and LB Alfred Williams.... 5 more guys who made Pro Bowl teams, TE Rodney Holman (3 X), RB Harold Green, WR Carl Pickens (2 X), Safety Darryl Williams, and CB Eric Thomas.....plus other talented players like WR Tim McGee (1211 yards and 18.6 avg in '89), and LB/DE Danny Stubbs (2 seasons with 9 sacks, 52 for his career).

Fred, I won't get into a discussion around this with you because you will delve into nonsensical.

Marvin came in at the right time with a better roster.

No hate for Marvin. None!

But it is unfair to Shula to assume that he would not have succeeded with Anderson, Jones and Steinbach blocking , Chad as X and an owner who finally figured the business.

If you don't remember, I'll refresh your memory. Esiason was shot. He was throwing the deep comebacks high and out, because he had no arm. The OL was gone. Krumrie never recovered from the leg, Thomas and Fulcher were done. Boomer and Thomas tried to create the Brngals East in NY, but it never happened.

Fred, I'm not your psychiatrist. And I won't be a party to your visceral thoughtless reactions.