Vegas and ESPN AFC North Division Outlook

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(06-18-2019, 08:00 PM)NKURyan Wrote: I like PFR's advanced passing metrics personally. Since you brought up passer rating, let's look at their advanced passer rating index which compares player performance for that season to league averages over the surrounding three year spans (ie, his 2015 season is compared to all other QBs from 2014 to 2016). A score of 100 represents "average", and Andy measures a 102 - which by definition makes him slightly above average. He also rates above average for his career in completion %, TD %, and yards per attempt as well. 

And before someone tries to move the goalposts here, none of this is to say Andy's a great QB for his career or anything, but he is most certainly not a "below average QB" as you've claimed. It's just the same type of overstated hyperbole that's thrown all over these boards.

Dalton is pretty good, but I think he gets overlooked here because the only year he was really vying for the top-tier compared to his peers is 2015 where he ended the season on IR.  Anderson, Esiason, and Palmer had All-pro seasons and times where they were (somewhat briefly here, for Palmer, admittedly) in the top tier with their peers.

Dalton was close to having that elite season in 2015 but ehh...damn Steelers win again, you know?

(06-18-2019, 08:29 PM)NKURyan Wrote: Hell, the 2009 playoff game was started by the "elite" Carson Palmer and he was hot garbage out there. But of course, when talking about how "elite" Carson was he have to cherry pick certain seasons to base his whole career summary on, so maybe that doesn't count.

A number of QBs have elite seasons and then return to the pack.  Matt Ryan and Cam Newton come to mind at the moment, I'm sure Nick Foles won't be elite anymore, stuff like that.  Andy was having his elite year, but he got injured so we have to cherry-pick and have had to for our QBs during the whole Mike Brown era.