Vegas and ESPN AFC North Division Outlook

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(06-20-2019, 02:18 PM)NKURyan Wrote: The fact that TJ Yates won the game shows that you don't need even a good QB to win a playoff game as long as he doesn't go out there and poop his pants. I'd chalk that Texans win up to the play of Arian Foster and JJ Watt. If Dalton gets a 150+ yards from Mixon and 3 turnovers from his defensive playmakers, he'll win more often than not too.

Until Brady, Rogers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Luck, and Mahomes retire it's not just hard to find a top 6-7 guy, it's impossible. And those guys won't be easily replaced even once they do - if 4 of those guys call it quits and all of the sudden a young guy is the #3 best guy in the league it doesn't mean he'll be able to do what those 4 retirees were capable of. 

We like to think it's just that easy to find that guy in the draft, but outside of Mahomes (who slid into pretty much the perfect situation) how many "elite" quarterbacks have been drafted over the last few years? Wentz? A lot of Philly fans liked Foles as a starter more than him. Goff? Plenty of fans haven't been happy with his postseason play. Trubisky? Not yet, not by a long shot. Mariota or Winston? It's time to put up or shut up for them. Darnold, Allen, and Rosen all have a ways to go. Mayfield? He at least *looks* like he has a shot, but he still hasn't won anything, his passer rating was 19th in the league last year (which this thread swears is REAL IMPORTANT) and his QBR was 22nd in the league. Does anybody really think any of the rookies drafted this year are going to buck the trend? I dunno...

But yes, in a dream scenario, if you happen to somehow get a Hall of Fame QB than yes, it might be easier to win a playoff game. Piece of cake, let's make it happen.

Funny you say the Texans won partially because of Watt...

Hmmm...would you elaborate on the exact plays that Watt did good on and which Bengal was the victim on those plays?