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Jonah Williams’ shoulder injury likely predates time with Bengals
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(07-03-2019, 09:19 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Antonio Bryant was a free agent coming off a season cut short by a knee injury. He passed his team physical with team doctors and never played again after the first day of training camp because of the same knee.

Duece Lutui wasnt cleared to play by Bengals doctors. Goes right back to Arizona and passes their physical.

Drew Brees wasnt cleared to play by the Dolphins. The Saints doctors cleared him and the rest as they say is history. Nick Saban would probably still be coaching in the NFL if he had Drew Brees.

Gaines Adams dropped dead at home from cardiomyopathy after playing three seasons in the NFL because it wasn't detected in high school, college, the combine, or during his annual team physicals. Plural.

1) The NFL doesn't have a uniform standard of what conditions are disqualifying so it varies from team to team.

2) The team doctors are the same doctors that conduct the combine physicals.

3) Physical exam tests like a Lachman's test for ACL instability are subjective. A McMurry's test for a meniscal tear only has a sensitivity of about 30% which means 70% of the time it is undetected during the physical exam.

4) Interpreting the various shades of black, white, and grey of an MRI is also subjective.   MRIs have false positives and false negatives. I had shoulder surgery for a false positive for a labrum and rotator cuff tear, but when the did surgery they found neither of them were torn. It was just inflammation which was so bad it looked like a tear. False negatives give the impression everything is okay when it isn't and delays definitive surgery. Some conditions like a sports hernia or a small meniscal tear can evade detection with imaging and require surgery to finally make a diagnosis.

5). You act like you these exams are infallible and incapable of missing something, but that's just not true despite everyone's best efforts.

If you knew as much as you think you do, you would understand why the Antonio Bryant case is completely relevant and you wouldn't be completely lost. But, being completely lost isn't uncommon for you.

So in layman terms you are stating that Jonah Williams had a Labrum tear that was bad enough to require surgery to repair it yet the medical staffs at the University of Alabama and the medical staffs at the combine were unable to detect that injury. Does that put all your jargon into basic terms well enough?

Which would mean as well that you believe that the physician who wrote the Tribune article is the only medical person in the sports industry that noticed Williams wearing the strap at Alabama and was the only one clever enough to consider that there was a possible shoulder ailment. Does this also sum up your premise?
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RE: Jonah Williams’ shoulder injury likely predates time with Bengals - OSUfan - 07-03-2019, 10:20 PM

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