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Dalton's make or break year
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(07-10-2019, 08:50 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yeah it does.


Mathew Stafford has been starting for the Lions for 10 years with zero playoff wins.

Ken Anderson had zero playoff wins in his first nine seasons.  I can imagine how you guys would have shit all over him.

John Brodie was the Forty-niners starter for 12 years before he won a playoff game, and like Anderson he won the league MVP that same year.

Jim Hart was the starter for the Cardinals for 15 years and never won a single postseason game.

Joe Ferguson did not win a playoff game until his ninth season as the Bills starter.

Archie Manning was the Saints starter for 10 years and never won a playoff game.
Good post.  All these were good quarterbacks.  You have to be on a good team.  I could list quarterbacks who won play-off games and some very average names in the list.  It helps to be on a good team.  Some fans think football is all about the quarterback.  It is not.  I have seen teams win NFL Championship/ Super Bowl with a average quarterback but great blocking and tackling.  

In Bengals history you have #1 Ken Anderson. #2 Boomer Esiason. #3 Andy Dalton. #4 Carson Palmer....the list gets pretty weak after that. #5 should be Virgil Carter.  So Dalton is one of the best quarterbacks in Bengals history.  It is not his fault this team can't block or tackle.  Under Mike Brown the Bengals have not had a great O Line and a great Defense at the same time, season after season, as Pittsburgh, Baltimore, New England and other power house teams.  Those who think it is all about the quarterback really don't know football.  Now the 1980's Bengals had years of great O Line and great Defense, but Paul Brown was still alive.  Once Paul Brown died, his son didn't have a clue, the apple falling too far from the tree. 

As for fans on here. Many had Johnny Manziel coming in being great. The #1 selling jersey that year. For all those who had McCarron as a super star, it's never happened. However he did throw to AJ Green what should have been play-off game winning TD, but rest of team just played most stupid football that I've ever seen that last minute.

Again, I don't see how Bengals blocking is going to be better, and the D was awful in 2018. This is NOT a good team, hence all the coaches fired. I'm all into NEW DEY, but I admit going into training camp this is a bad team. We are lucky to have Dalton at QB because he gives these sad sacks the best chance of winning some games. How BAD was Bengals at end of season ? They brought in Hue Stinks. Some fans actually wanted Hue Stinks to become the coach. That's pretty BAD and why I'm into NEW DEY, but it might take a few years to turn around this BAD team. Starting at Seattle is a hard road game for good teams, jet lag into a good crowd and team.
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Dalton's make or break year - Chezaugie - 07-09-2019, 01:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-09-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-09-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jj22 - 07-09-2019, 10:19 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 08:10 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-10-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-11-2019, 12:44 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 12:37 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 01:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - motoarch - 07-10-2019, 02:29 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 08-11-2019, 02:27 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-09-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Yojimbo - 07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - HuDey - 07-09-2019, 05:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - bfine32 - 07-09-2019, 07:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - McC - 07-09-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - JWW1971 - 07-09-2019, 06:50 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - JWW1971 - 07-10-2019, 12:44 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jj22 - 07-09-2019, 07:29 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - bfine32 - 07-09-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Au165 - 07-10-2019, 08:36 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2019, 10:16 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-10-2019, 07:30 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - kevin - 07-10-2019, 03:52 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-10-2019, 08:08 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-11-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-14-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 05:12 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-16-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - kevin - 07-11-2019, 05:58 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - t3r3e3 - 07-13-2019, 05:48 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-11-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 12:32 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Joelist - 07-14-2019, 12:47 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-14-2019, 12:51 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 01:01 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-14-2019, 01:08 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Joelist - 07-14-2019, 01:50 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - t3r3e3 - 07-14-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-15-2019, 08:30 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 02:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 04:48 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 01:43 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 11:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-14-2019, 12:17 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 02:40 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-15-2019, 06:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 02:46 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-16-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 05:21 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-16-2019, 08:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-17-2019, 12:14 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-17-2019, 06:11 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-17-2019, 05:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-18-2019, 01:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-19-2019, 12:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-18-2019, 05:05 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-19-2019, 01:53 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 02:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-20-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 03:25 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - XsandOs - 07-19-2019, 10:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-20-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-20-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - jason - 07-20-2019, 09:38 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-21-2019, 03:18 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-21-2019, 11:50 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-22-2019, 06:00 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-20-2019, 11:04 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-21-2019, 03:12 AM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-25-2019, 03:33 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 02:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 03:34 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 10:41 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 12:42 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 12:49 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 01:55 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 01:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 08-02-2019, 10:37 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-22-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-22-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-23-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-23-2019, 01:33 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-23-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:26 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-24-2019, 03:45 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-25-2019, 12:16 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-26-2019, 11:22 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 10:06 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-27-2019, 09:56 AM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-28-2019, 02:15 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-28-2019, 08:57 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-28-2019, 09:28 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-28-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 12:59 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-30-2019, 01:41 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-30-2019, 01:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-30-2019, 01:46 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-29-2019, 05:06 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-26-2019, 11:17 AM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - Earendil - 07-26-2019, 06:05 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-26-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 09-18-2019, 10:47 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-26-2019, 06:53 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-28-2019, 11:20 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - Luvnit2 - 07-29-2019, 01:13 AM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-29-2019, 12:06 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - Synric - 07-31-2019, 12:51 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:21 PM
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RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:44 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2019, 02:01 PM
RE: Dalton's make or break year - PhilHos - 07-31-2019, 01:47 PM
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