07-21-2019, 04:59 PM
(07-21-2019, 03:08 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: The guy has won 68 games, with 20 4th quarter comebacks and 24 game-winning drives. You don't think he faced adversity in any of those?
How about these:
- Led a 4th qtr comeback on the road against Tennessee, throwing 3 TD's (2011)
- Led us to a slim 34-27 win over the Browns where we needed every point. Threw 3 TD's and 300 yards despite taking 6 sacks (2012)
- Led a road win over Washington when the score was tied at 24 going into the 4th. He threw a pair of 4th quarter TDs to seal the lead. (2012)
- Helped lead a comeback from a 30-14 deficit against GB by throwing 2 TD's in the last 18 minutes. (2013)
- 337 yards + 3 TD's in 27-24 road win against Buffalo (2013)
- 372 yards + 3 TD's in 27-24 road win against Detroit, including 2 quick completion in 26 seconds to set up game-winning FG (2013)
- Threw game-winning 77 yard TD pass against Baltimore with less than 5 minutes in 4th qtr.
- Led a 27-24 last minute win over Baltimore with Sanu and Greg Little as his starting WR's and Hill/Gio rushing for 70 yards combined on 26 carries
...and that's just his first 4 years. The last 4 have included games like the comeback vs Seattle and the game where Andy was sacked 7 times (@ Jets) and threw for 366 yards, gutting out a close win.
Can you win with an above average to good but not great QB in the NFL? Probably.
Can you win with inept management? Occasionally.
Can you win with average to above average coaching? Probably.
Can you win in the playoffs with all 3 of those things? No. Not consistently.
For anyone who questions why we have issues, look no further than free agency and somewhat the draft. Management had excitement with a new coach and absolutely tanked free agency. It was a tailor made opportunity to revitalize the fanbase.
Then during the draft, they reach for a blocking TE in the 2nd Round who didn't even think he'd go that high. Yes - We fans will give him the benefit of the doubt as that's what we do. But, it's not a good situation.
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