08-03-2019, 04:46 PM
(08-02-2019, 04:16 PM)wolverine515151 Wrote: It's meaningless to argue with these defenders because they'll come up with all kinds of insane arguments to defend their positions on Dalton. The facts are overwhelming that Dalton is a below average qb.
Someone mentioned it isn't fair to rank Dalton with the other starters because it's like looking in a vacuum. That is an extremely clownish argument.
We have categories in football for everything. We have receivers yards, receivers yards per play, receiving td's, rushing yards, rushing yards per play, rushing td's, tackles and interceptions.
It isn't looking at it in a vacuum to see where Dalton ranks every year among the starters. It's called a category, get used to it! We use categories all over this world to group similar things and see where they rank.
That being said, every year they rank the starting 32 qb's based on their qb rating, Dalton has had 1 good season 3 average and 4 below average seasons based on those rankings.
This ranking is unfair because it gives equal value to regular season and playoff games. We all know playoff games should count a minimum of 2 regular season games. So Dalton's rankings would be worse if it were ranked fairly.
Some would point to his total yards he's thrown in his career to indicate he's a good qb, well that just means he's started every game of his career, never been benched due to bad play, and stayed mostly injury free. On top of that we have thrown the ball much more than we should have. We've been a pass first team instead of a run first team.
Furthermore the total yards and yards per throw are built into the qb rating. There is no need to extract individual statistics from the qb rating when it is summarized in one package. That's the whole point of the qb rating; Use one number to rank a qb instead of having to argue about each of the qb's individual stats.
Lets look at important games in his career to see if he's clutch.
Dalton has a 55 qb rating in the playoffs.
He has a 67 qb rating in prime time games.
During the regular season he has a 96 qb rating in the first quarter and a 82 qb rating in the 4th quarter.
These things tells us that he gets worse when it's an important game or the game is on the line. Irregardless if he has staged a few 4th quarter comebacks his overall qb rating gets worse in the 4th quarter.
The bottom line is this, Dalton is a below average qb and a total choke artist. He's as bad as Greg Norman the golfer who used to choke in golf majors.
Dalton was probably close to a top 15 qb a few years ago, now he is comfortably below average. He isn't sniffing a top 15 qb in the league in any way shape or form.
Well run organizations dump bad qb's while we hold on to Dalton and continue to make excuses for him.
Flacco wins a Superbowl with the Ravens, and when he gets older, shows declining skills, they draft a first round qb in Jackson and send him packing the next year. Dalton is a similar qb to Flacco, has not sniffed a playoff win, and we want to keep him!
The Jaguars had seen enough of Bortle's below average play and sent him packing.
Most teams, other than the Bengals, would not keep Dalton.
He ranked 26 out of 32 starters last year in qb rating. That isn't close to a top 15 qb.
The good new is our new coach has no ties to Dalton like Lewis did. Dalton won't get a long leash like he had with Lewis. If Dalton doesn't win a playoff game this year he's gone.
So stop making excuses for Dalton. It's always someone else's fault and not his. It's the offensive line, the injuries, the receivers not catching balls or the coaches. When will you excuse makers understand it isn't everyone else's fault for Dalton's bad play, it's Dalton himself!!
Last year we weren't very good. In total. That being said, Dalton did have 21 touchdowns (11 interceptions) in 11 games. He was well on pace to surpass his season averages before our offensive line let him down (again). Hell, for giggles, we just throw in Driskell's stats, he'd finish with 27 touchdowns and 13 picks. That's far from a horrible year. He would've fit in right around where that awful Tom Brady finished in TD passes. That's also forgiving and not including the many, many many missed opportunities that Jeff Driskell left on the field. His 55% last season is still 3% worse than Dalton's.
We can all cherry pick stats man.
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