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Bobby Hart-ejection
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(09-26-2019, 09:45 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Great stuff, man.  Thanks for taking the time.  Very interesting.  Since I seem to have wavered from defending Dalton to Ross and now to Hart, here is one other argument I would make in his, and the entire offensive line's, defense.  The Bengals have been behind in every game.  They have had very few rushing attempts...probably the fewest in the league.  When an opposing defense doesn't have to worry about defending the rush at all, they are teeing off every snap with no fear of being caught in overpursuit and leaving their rushing lanes. 

That is why I have been saying I hope the Bengals line up with two TEs and pound the steelers with a lot of rushing attempts.  Even when there is only moderate success, they have to get them THINKING about run defense.  I was shocked to see that the Bengals didn't run ONE play-action fake in the first half against Buffalo...even if they are just faking a rush, it helps.  It helped provide one of the worst offensive halves of football in the Dalton-Green Era.  

One other quick note about your stats.  A lot of people wanted us to draft McGlinchey.  Looks like he isn't the all-world prospect many thought he was and I thought he was drafted as a LT.  Regardless, it goes to show that Hart is producing just as well in a less-balanced offense.  

Yeah, average as he is (which is much better than bad) he's definitely underrated by Bengals fans. That's not to say he doesn't need to be replaced, just that he's not an immediate priority right now. Not as much as a couple other guys on the Oline and the LBs. 

I agree with you on the run game. I don't know how--because i don't really want to sacrifice drives with unproductive run after unproductive run--but they do need to try and get something going, better than they've attempted to this point. 

I'm gonna state this again, at risk of seeming like i'm beating a dead horse, but the QB position has a very large effect on the offense. Every first down pass gives the offense, potentially, three more plays, which in theory, gives you more opportunities to run the ball. It also keeps the defense off the field for that extra amount of time. Currently, the Bengals are 24th in ToP at 28:52. Against the Bills, they were down to 23:06. 

Re: McGlinchy, that is one that kind of makes me scratch my head. It's also something Pistons brought up, that i took a quick look at, and scratched my head a bit too. I can find instances where the grades don't seem to follow other grades, which leads me to assume that there are times in grading, where the eye test must come into play. If you look at McGlinchey's grade, he's done well in pass pro but he's been very poor in run blocking. When you average the two out, his overall grade is lower than you would expect for an average, so there must be something to a really poor grade dragging your score down more than just the average. 

When i look at the description of some of the grades, there will be a note like "weighted towards interceptions" which leads me to believe that negative things are more negative than positive things are positive, which would drage a grade down when taking those things into consideration. An example that comes to mind is the sack on Dalton, against the Bills, where he basically stepped right up into the sack. As a raw stat, it looks like someone else failed and Dalton got sacked, but by the eye test, Dalton caused the sack by running right into it. 





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Bobby Hart-ejection - pally - 09-23-2019, 02:04 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-23-2019, 02:19 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - I_C_DeadPeople - 09-23-2019, 02:21 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-23-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - thillan - 09-23-2019, 02:43 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - SunsetBengal - 09-23-2019, 03:12 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - thillan - 09-23-2019, 03:16 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - SHRacerX - 09-24-2019, 08:22 AM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-25-2019, 03:35 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - SHRacerX - 09-26-2019, 09:33 AM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2019, 10:47 AM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-26-2019, 12:34 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - SHRacerX - 09-27-2019, 08:25 AM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-26-2019, 12:31 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2019, 01:57 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-26-2019, 01:59 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-25-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-25-2019, 04:57 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-25-2019, 06:35 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-25-2019, 09:15 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-25-2019, 09:27 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - SHRacerX - 09-26-2019, 09:45 AM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-26-2019, 12:24 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-23-2019, 02:29 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-23-2019, 02:39 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-23-2019, 02:42 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-23-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - pally - 09-23-2019, 02:42 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-23-2019, 05:00 PM
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RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - bfine32 - 09-24-2019, 05:09 PM
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RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-26-2019, 02:45 PM
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RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - fortyyearfan - 09-25-2019, 01:36 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-26-2019, 01:33 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2019, 02:02 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-26-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2019, 02:33 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - rfaulk34 - 09-26-2019, 02:41 PM
RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - THE PISTONS - 09-26-2019, 03:13 PM
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RE: Bobby Hart-ejection - pally - 09-29-2019, 07:35 AM
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