10-01-2019, 05:30 PM
The OP for this thread is pretty terrible. Sorry, Kevin, but....
1. Joey Votto has full no-trade protection, and even if he didn't, the same reasons why you want to get rid of him is the same reasons why nobody would want him even if he would agree to it. Lets say he does agree to it, you mentioned the Bailey contract, but he had ONE year left on his, not five like Votto. No team is trading for that unless the Reds throw in their top prospects too. Keep in mind that with the Bailey trade, the Reds only came out $7m ahead, and they had to give two guys who will be Top 100 prospects in 2020 to do it.
2. You mentioned multiple times the Reds must sign Aquino, Senzel, and Van Meter for 2020. They are ALL already under team control and will make somewhere around $580k in 2020 after making something like $545k or so in 2019. The Reds still control all three for 6 more years, 3 of those years in the $580-700k range. There is no signing required and the three combined will only cost about $105k more in 2020 than in 2019.
3. You can't "dump" guys who are no longer under contract (Wood, J Iglesias). They are free agents.
4. You keep mentioning they need all this money. For what? Have you looked at the free agent market for 2020? There's only a couple guys worth a damn offensively. Rendon is the big headliner, and the Nationals have offered him 7yr/$210m.
5. You said the Reds should keep looking for players on the cheap, but that just leads to more losing seasons, which is what I thought you wanted to avoid with this whole rant. You want to open up $50m in payroll, but not spend it on anybody good because you don't want $100m contracts being offered. Your plan would end up with the Reds having an ~$80-90m payroll, and Bob C banking tens of millions while the Reds win about 50 or 60 games. You need good players to win games, good players cost money or prospects. You don't want to spend the former, and the Reds don't have many of the latter.
1. Joey Votto has full no-trade protection, and even if he didn't, the same reasons why you want to get rid of him is the same reasons why nobody would want him even if he would agree to it. Lets say he does agree to it, you mentioned the Bailey contract, but he had ONE year left on his, not five like Votto. No team is trading for that unless the Reds throw in their top prospects too. Keep in mind that with the Bailey trade, the Reds only came out $7m ahead, and they had to give two guys who will be Top 100 prospects in 2020 to do it.
2. You mentioned multiple times the Reds must sign Aquino, Senzel, and Van Meter for 2020. They are ALL already under team control and will make somewhere around $580k in 2020 after making something like $545k or so in 2019. The Reds still control all three for 6 more years, 3 of those years in the $580-700k range. There is no signing required and the three combined will only cost about $105k more in 2020 than in 2019.
3. You can't "dump" guys who are no longer under contract (Wood, J Iglesias). They are free agents.
4. You keep mentioning they need all this money. For what? Have you looked at the free agent market for 2020? There's only a couple guys worth a damn offensively. Rendon is the big headliner, and the Nationals have offered him 7yr/$210m.
5. You said the Reds should keep looking for players on the cheap, but that just leads to more losing seasons, which is what I thought you wanted to avoid with this whole rant. You want to open up $50m in payroll, but not spend it on anybody good because you don't want $100m contracts being offered. Your plan would end up with the Reds having an ~$80-90m payroll, and Bob C banking tens of millions while the Reds win about 50 or 60 games. You need good players to win games, good players cost money or prospects. You don't want to spend the former, and the Reds don't have many of the latter.
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