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Glenn at odds with Bengals over concussion
(10-18-2019, 12:05 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Pretty much everything you wrote is incorrect. First, a concussion is a mild TBI. Second, while most mild concussions resolve in a couple of weeks some can take 8 weeks or even longer to resolve. That doesn’t mean it is something other than a concussion. Protracted symptoms can result from Post Concussion Syndrome and the severity of the concussion doesn’t directly correlate to who will develop PCS. Meaning a person with a mild concussion may develop PCS while another with a severe concussion may not. Third, none of the imaging modalities you listed will show any abnormalities as a result of a concussion. Fourth, the relevance is that just because you didn’t see him get a concussion doesn’t mean he is lying or malingering because delayed onset of symptoms can and do occur.

(10-18-2019, 12:10 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: False. A concussion is a type of TBI and it cannot be detected by imaging.

Migraine headaches can’t be detected by imaging, but that doesn’t mean people who report migraines are lying or malingering.

You don't possess the background or capacity for me to have a discussion with you on this topic.

But as a matter of clarity:

To your analogy of a migraine - you should look at the placebo effect rates both in episodic and chronic migraine clinical trials.

Similar to this situation with Glenn, the true prevalence of migraines are far below the opioid abuse population who c/o migraines.

Once you do that, and truly comprehend what that means, then read my post again.

You are having a discussion with a person who has spent more time in migraine literature and treatment, than you have spent in school.

That a concussion is a general term applied to non imaging confirmed TBI, is correct. However, imaging confirms TBI, irrespective of whether baseline imaging is available.

Again, non-quantifiable condition that cannot be confirmed by lab or imaging data, which depends solely on patient described symptoms, can and has been abused.

As a word of advice, refrain from using "pretty much" in your argument. Makes you look like an amateur.
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RE: Glenn at odds with Bengals over concussion - XsandOs - 10-18-2019, 02:58 AM

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