Are there any optimists left?

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(11-02-2019, 04:19 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Marvin won a division title before he had his first losing season as a head coach.

I am not ready to dump Taylor yet, but this argument is a little silly.

First five years : 7-9 one time ,8-8 three times and 11-5 once with Palmer pre injury. Not exactly HOF numbers. Zac may never do anything but to back bite him because of a shit storm of a team he took over this year seems a little unfair. Marvin and Andy are dead to us now. Get over it. Long live Zac and Ryan.