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Burrow, Tua, or Herbert?
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(11-19-2019, 03:26 PM)Au165 Wrote: Yes and no. The reason system matters is because almost everything you say above is because the system contributes to it. The system dictates the decision making, systems like Oklahoma create easily defined reads because it so it eliminates a lot of "NFL level" decision making. It doesn't mean they can't do it, but it makes it tougher to tell. Completion percentage is 100% system related, late game or early game it doesn't really matter. Ability to throw under pressure is a QB assert so I agree there, same with ball placement which is far more important than if the ball was caught or not (Completion percentage).

Evaluating QB's is super complex, which is why teams miss so much. It's not just seeing what the outcome was, you have to understand the defense responsibilities and the play design to know what was talent and what was "scheme". You can see arm strength pretty easily and you can see mobility, but decision making is tougher and that is the most important piece.

With all that said....Burrow isn't a system QB lol.

Yes, if the system creates open primary receivers consistently. The best system can't stop rushers from getting to the QB unless everything is snap, 3 steps, throw to the primary receiver. In the heat of games, QBs have to make decisions. Against better defenses, this is what makes a QBs decisions stand out. 

With that said, it's still easier to see system type plays. At some point, QBs are going to be under pressure or primary and secondary receivers are going to be covered and it's up to the QB to make plays or not. It's just having the time and patience to see enough to make a decision on a certain guy or not. 

I understand it's not all black or white in either scenario and it is possible for a guy to look good in college and like crap in the NFL or vice versa. 

To your point about completion percentage, that's true with shorter throws and sure, open deeper throws (most of the time). That's where coverage comes in. If a guy puts it on the money when his receiver is covered or he can throw guys open...i don't care about "system", he's a guy i'd want. 

Agree about Burrow.





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Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-19-2019, 09:52 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-19-2019, 10:02 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - corpjet - 11-19-2019, 10:05 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Tomkat - 11-19-2019, 10:05 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Whatever - 11-19-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - mallorian69 - 11-19-2019, 10:53 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Whatever - 11-19-2019, 01:56 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - ochocincos - 11-19-2019, 11:16 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - rfaulk34 - 11-19-2019, 02:44 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-19-2019, 03:26 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - rfaulk34 - 11-19-2019, 05:47 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - rfaulk34 - 11-19-2019, 05:49 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - rfaulk34 - 11-19-2019, 09:10 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-21-2019, 09:01 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Synric - 11-19-2019, 10:12 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Synric - 11-19-2019, 11:10 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Synric - 11-19-2019, 11:24 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-21-2019, 09:04 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Whatever - 11-21-2019, 10:59 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-22-2019, 10:30 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Whatever - 11-22-2019, 11:04 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-24-2019, 09:02 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-20-2019, 09:04 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-21-2019, 08:44 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - scorp1974 - 11-19-2019, 11:56 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - sandwedge - 11-19-2019, 12:03 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - cinci4life - 11-19-2019, 03:03 PM
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RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Whatever - 11-19-2019, 07:41 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-21-2019, 08:59 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - kalibengal - 11-26-2019, 12:14 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - CJD - 11-19-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Interceptor - 11-19-2019, 06:27 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-21-2019, 08:50 AM
Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - ah5 - 11-19-2019, 08:38 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - WhodeyRay - 11-19-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - psychdoctor - 11-20-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 09:18 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-25-2019, 09:22 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 09:30 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - bengalfan74 - 11-25-2019, 10:58 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - SHRacerX - 11-26-2019, 08:09 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - bengalfan74 - 11-25-2019, 10:54 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 11:32 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - psychdoctor - 11-25-2019, 10:39 AM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 04:12 PM
RE: Burrow, Tua, or Herbert? - Au165 - 11-26-2019, 09:14 AM
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