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Wanna see Herbert's flaws?
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(11-25-2019, 02:23 PM)ochocincos Wrote: This was always considered a concern with Herbert. It was the same with Mariota coming out.
A QB who doesn't go through progressions will have a real tough time in the NFL if he/she cannot learn that aspect.

Do you see this trait as something easier or harder to coach than other skills? I personally think it's harder, but I'm no QB guru.

A lot of college systems today have very defined reads built into the plays in a single route combination. When a play is called it is expected you will get one of a few coverage pre snap. When you see the whole offense look over to the sideline they are checking with the coach to see if the defense is aligned presnap to work inside of one of the predefined reads. For instance if I have a curl flat combo to my front side and a smash concept on the backside I will check with the coach presnap. If the coach is seeing cover two he will tell me I am working the backside smash concept, but if it looks like man or even cover 3 presnap he will tell me to throw the front side curl flat combo. If they don't like anything they may check back to a run, or maybe an RPO. 

These "check with me" offenses that use coaches on the sideline make it hard to tell what they can and can't do because you don't know if it's a product of being unable to or because the coach prefers to make the call. Normally those same things are built into a play now but the QB is tasked with making that decision presnap then confirming with safety rotation and Lb movement post snap to find the proper read. Basically this is all a long way of saying he may be able to but if you aren't tasked with it often and when your read is locked down from a miss read presnap you struggle to find an outlet for the ball it tends to make me think your leash in the NFL will be up before you learn it.

Funny story, there was a QB for the Jets a couple years back who said he learned how to read coverage from playing Madden. I want to say it was Bryce Petty who came out of one of these check with me offenses at Baylor and was never tasked with actually learning to read a coverage and make proper reads. Everyone who keeps saying they love Hurts is going to fall prey to a similar issue, the scheme at Oklahoma lays out very defined reads and he stares down that read and then runs if it's not there.
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Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - SunsetBengal - 11-23-2019, 11:56 PM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Synric - 11-24-2019, 12:09 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-24-2019, 12:21 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Synric - 11-24-2019, 12:31 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Synric - 11-24-2019, 12:28 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Synric - 11-24-2019, 12:49 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-24-2019, 12:56 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 03:59 PM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 04:26 PM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Synric - 11-24-2019, 01:20 PM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Big Boss - 11-24-2019, 01:39 PM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - SHRacerX - 11-25-2019, 09:24 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Synric - 11-25-2019, 11:24 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 11:40 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 11:59 AM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Au165 - 11-25-2019, 04:07 PM
RE: Wanna see Herbert's flaws? - Synric - 11-25-2019, 11:48 AM

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