Can we talk Joe Burrow?

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(12-30-2019, 10:31 AM)Au165 Wrote: As I keep telling people, "Arm Talent" is overrated. You know who had "Arm Talent"? Jamarcus Russell, Brock Osweiller, Paxton Lynch, Ryan Mallet, all had TONS of arm talent, you know what that means? Absolutely nothing. Being able to throw the ball really hard, is less important than trajectory and placement. There is a minimum threshold for throwing power in the NFL, and he is easily above it, after that it's nice sure but really doesn't make a big difference.

The problem is people have fallen in love with Mahomes and so every QB now has to be able to throw 70 yards across his body falling backwards. That not only isn't common, it's not really good either. Mahomes gets himself in trouble at times being over confident in his arm but they have a great coaching setup there that reigns him in enough to make hit work. More often then not the guys with Cannons are like Josh Allen who lack any sort of touch and throw fast balls on a drag and it shoots through a guys hands or sails high.

If anything his ability to throw on the move laterally with out much lower body drive should make people feel better. Throws are made from the ground up. The drive off your drop back foot is what generates most the power outside of guys like Rodgers and Mahomes who can muscle it. If he actually got to throw in rhythm with drive more often I'd bet his "Arm Talent" would look a lot better, but considering a lot of his big throws are while moving, requiring him to square his shoulders with his lower body out of phase tells me he is perfectly fine arm strength wise.

I completely agree. A QB doesn't need to be able to throw 50+ yards downfield, at least not often.
And Burrow has shown to be rather accurate on deep balls, and it's not just "jump balls" on those deep throws.
I've seen his drop it right in the "bread basket" of his receiver in stride, most recent example being Jefferson in Saturday's game.

My most important traits in a franchise QB:
- Accuracy! (Fulton Reed didn't become a good hockey player until he learned to shoot the puck into the net regardless of how hard his slap shot was)
- Ball placement
- Touch (I still have horrific memories of Palmer rocketing a pass into a receiver's hands when they are just 5 yards away. No need for that)
- Pocket presence
- Ability to extend the play