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Elite qbs
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(01-12-2020, 11:33 AM)BengalsFan1986 Wrote: Here are the Super Bowl Winning QBs since 2000.

2000-Trent Dilfer
2001-Tom Brady
2002-Brad Johnson
2003-Tom Brady
2004-Tom Brady
2005-Ben Roethlisberger
2006-Peyton Manning
2007-Eli Manning
2008-Ben Roethlisberger
2009-Drew Brees
2010-Aaron Rodgers
2011-Eli Manning
2012-Joe Flacco
2013-Russell Wilson
2014-Tom Brady
2015-Peyton Manning
2016-Tom Brady
2017-Nick Foles
2018-Tom Brady

Of those, I’d consider Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco, and Nick Foles to not be elite QBs. Of those, Dilfer, Johnson, and Flacco had amazing individual seasons backed up by elite defenses. In Foles SB winning year he was a back up during the regular season, where Carson Wentz had an amazing season backed up by an elite defense. None of the teams with these QBs had any sustained success.

This is the list of QBs with multiple starts in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady, John Elway, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Roger Staubach, Peyton Manning, Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, Bob Griese, Ben Roethlisberger, Kurt Warner, Fran Tarkenton, Bart Starr, Jim Plunkett, Eli Manning, Len Dawson, Joe Theismann, Brett Favre, Russell Wilson, and Craig Morton.

The Oakland Raiders in the 70’s, the NY Giants in the late 80’s early 90’s, and the SF 49ers in the 80’s/90’s were the only teams I could find that had won Super Bowls within the same decade with two different QBs. The Raiders did it with Ken Stabler and Jim Plunkett. The Giants did it with Phil Simms and Jeff Hostetler. The 49ers did it with Joe Montana and Steve Young. The worst duo from that group is probably Simms and Hostetler? Not exactly slouches at the QB position.

Can you win without an elite QB? Yes, you can. Can you reliably win without an elite QB? I’m going to say no.

Ryan Tannehill and the Tennessee Titans beating the Ravens and Patriots in back to back games is not something to use as a reason to not draft a QB if you think they can be elite. Derrick Henry became the first player to rush for 180 yards in back to back playoff games. If anything you argue that an elite OL and an elite RB are still important pieces in today’s NFL, not that you don’t need a QB.

I had this same post almost verbatim a couple months ago, lol. Major difference was I bolded the QBs I thought that were elite.
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