02-03-2020, 06:25 PM
(01-30-2020, 12:22 PM)Catmandude123 Wrote: Did you miss the part that said he would be back in six to eight weeks?
Yeah, they said the same about Eifert's ankle injury. They said the same thing about Rich Braham's "bone bruise" which Braham revealed was really a tibial plateau fracture after the season.
When Green first injured his ankle, it was no big deal, just doing MRI as a precaution. Then no big deal, just a torn ligament. Then no big deal, just a little procedure. No big deal, may miss the start of the season. No big deal, may miss 4 games. No big deal, but we don't know when he will return.
The point is, you should know better. Point blank, the Bengals lie about injuries. Why you believe their reports, I don't know. Who told you 6-8 weeks? Green's doctor? No.
Quote:Did the original MRI lie and it suddenly turned into a different injury?
You mean like Braham's bone bruise turning into a tibial plateau fracture? It didn't turn into a tibial plateau fracture. It was always a tibial plateau fracture from the start. The only thing that changed was the information released to the public.
Quote:If it takes him a full season to recover from a sprained ankle it seems to me he was goldbricking.
I'm sure that is how it seems to you because you don't know the difference between a grade i and a grade III ankle sprain, the difference in prognosis between an anterior talofibular tear and a deltoid tear, the associated injuries with a deltoid tear, and the prognosis for each.
https://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/uncommon-injuries-the-deltoid-ligament/
I'll hit the highlights so you don't have to read the whole article.
Quote:Injuries to the deltoid ligament are an uncommon ligamentous sprain to the ankle. The mechanism of injury occurs due to forced eversion combined with external rotation. They are typically seen in footballers (all types), court sports athletes (netball, basketball, handball), combat sports such as Brazilian JuJitSu, as well as in off-road runners such as trail runners. The signs and symptoms are usually straightforward; however many of these type of injuries are also associated with syndesmosis injuries and ankle fractures. The management of deltoid ligament injury is similar to lateral ankle sprains, however, the rehabilitation period is often protracted.
Did you get that part about protected rehab? That means it take a very long f'n time to heal. One of the reasons is because of the associated injuries which occur frequently. Associated injuries we don't know if Green does or doesn't have, just like we didn't know Braham had a fracture and not a bone bruise. Only about 5% of ankle injuries are deltoid ligament tears so 95% of people think they are just like the ankle injury they had when they were in high school and don't understand why Green is taking so long to heal because they had a similar injury, but they aren't similar and thus the prognosis is different. We can watch the video of Green's injury and it appears his foot and ankle evert and externally rotate when he lands which as you just read in black and white is the mechanism of injury for a deltoid ligament injury while the more common ATF ligament tear is caused by inversion and internal rotation.
Quote:Isolated deltoid sprains without fracture are rare
Based upon the video showing how he landed he likely suffered a deltoid ligament tear and more than likely he has other injuries which haven't been reported that would explain the protracted rehabilitation. His recovery is consistent with the prognosis for this type of injury.
Quote:For the athlete with a more severe isolated deltoid sprain (particularly the deep fibres), early stress by returning to too soon may lead to the ligament healing in a stretched position, contributing to instability.
The last thing an athlete would want to do try to is progress through rehab too hard, too soon which could lead to chronic instability and need to have the surgery repeated and it could potentially be career threatening.
Quote:Return to light training should be delayed to about 6-8 weeks.
After 6-8 weeks they return to light training, not competitive competition.
Quote:The athlete can return to sport if they have met the following exit criteria:
Medial ankle swelling is controlled, and does not increase after loading sessions.
Swelling is exactly what Green complained about after his training sessions.
Quote:Running can be performed daily if the athlete does not react from one session to the next.
Swelling indicates a reaction. If Green's ankle reacted to the training, his surgeon and therapists advice would be to back of the training until the swelling improves.
Quote:Deltoid ligament sprains are not a common injury to the ankle. If they do occur, even the mild strains of the superficial deltoid ligament will take longer to rehabilitate than mild injuries on the lateral aspect of the ankle. Higher grade injuries that involve the deep deltoid ligament will most likely result in a much longer convalescence period. More severe injuries are usually associated with more severe pathology such as malleolar fracture and/or syndesmosis injury.
Due to the natural tendency for the ankle and foot to pronate and evert during loaded movements such as running and landing, early return to sport in an unhealed ligament complex may lead to over-stretching of the deltoid ligament, which may then progress to pathological chronic instability of the medial ankle. Therefore, the clinician is advised to [b]move slowly in rehabilitation[/b] with the more significant injuries that involve the deep deltoid ligament.
I have observed an athlete most likely rehabbing from a significant ankle injury which required surgery to repair and based upon how his rehab has progressed it is consistent with my suspicion he suffered a deltoid ligament tear . . . at a minimum.
You see a goldbricking diva like Antonio Brown.
Quote:Don't you find it strange he went to see his doctor at the END of the season and not at other times to get an opinion as to the status of his injury?
Actually, I don't find that strange at all. Matter of fact, that's basically the standard of care. If your medical condition isn't getter better on its own you see a doctor. If it doesn't get better after seeing a doctor, he refers you to a specialist. If it doesn't get better after seeing a specialist, he refers you to a subspecialist.
If your ankle wasn't getting better as expected after surgery and PT; would you keep doing the same thing or would you see a subspecialist for another opinion? Any normal person with half a brain would do the latter, not keep doing the former.
Quote:He wanted other teams to know he was ready to play next year.
Then he went on IR. What a wonderful and completely asinine way of letting teams know he was ready to play next year; by letting all of them know he wasn't healthy enough to play the last game. F'n brilliant.
Quote:I am giving my opinions only and while I haven't seen any of AJ's charts neither have you so all you are giving is an opinion. YOU ARE NOT HIS DOCTOR!!!!
But, at least my opinion is based in medical knowledge as I just showed you in black and white. You have "feelings." Like you feel Green and Antonio Brown are the same type of diva proving not all opinions are created equal.
