02-04-2020, 05:26 PM
(02-04-2020, 05:19 PM)spazz70 Wrote: Because he is not elite....He had one phenomenal season.....he weighs 215 pounds at 6' 3"....he does not possess elite arm strength...He is though a very smart and accurate thrower ala Peyton Manning.... That is saying a lot though, comparing him to manning but that is what I see with him but can he overcome being sacked 50-60 times a year like Manning did the first few years.. Will his brains outshine his lack of arm strength in certain situations?
It is not hard to comprehend because there are certain aspects about him that are not elite.
Luck was elite...Go back and look at draft reports and stats from as far back as his sophomore year. One of the best prospects in 20 years, a definitive number one overall draft pick. No OL and got killed by it and having to run the ball. Mediocre NFL stats and 6 year career. All of this to a stud of a QB, probably 10 times the prospect that Joe Burrow is.
I am not going to be mad and have resigned to the fact that the Burrow will be the pick. I just do not see what everyone else does. I do not see a prototypical number one overall QB. I hope he comes here and the Bengals magically make some moves and we have a majestic OL and he is the rookie of the year. unfortunately after 40 years of watching this team I just do not see it happening.
I also would not be unhappy if they traded the pick for 3-4 1st rounders and a few more 2-3 rounders and drafted someone like Herbert or Eason alter on.
Here is the thing for me...The Bengals have come straight out over the years and told everyone that they build through the draft and are not players early in FA. This means that if you have more picks and bust on half you still can get a few out of the picks that will contribute or start.
Example
we do the trade from what I have seen
Swap from 1 to 5
their 18th
their 2 and 3
and possibly 1-2 more 1st the next two years
that gives us picks
5, 18, 33, 39, 65 and 70
SIX picks in the top 70, this year...even if 2 (QB, OL, LB) are day one starters, one develops over time and one is significant on STs or such then that is a success, that is getting 4 quality players out of the draft over time (hopefully)
compared to staying pat...
1 pick in each of the 1st 3 rounds.
Burrow will start
33rd- hopefully a day one starter (OL, LB)
65th- who knows???
Sorry, I just can't get not trading out of this pick out of my mind. It would have to be something similar to the above to do it.
"unfortunately after 40 years of watching this team I just do not see it happening.
I also would not be unhappy if they traded the pick for 3-4 1st rounders and a few more 2-3 rounders and drafted someone like Herbert or Eason alter on. "
Same goes for trading Burrows for a huge draft haul. Bengals haven't done it when they could have and I don't see MB wanting so many rookies on scale at the same time. That would mean up to 7 high pick rookies coming off contract at the same time and potentially a few of them getting big bites of the salary cap at the same time. MB doesn't operate that way. For that reason I can't see a trade.
What I could see happening if they don't like Burrows as you don't is taking someone else, a trade down to number 2 or number 3.