02-06-2020, 03:43 AM
(02-05-2020, 10:56 AM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Nately's got it, the latter two do not.
Again, I have absolutely no issue with WHAT he is saying, it's merely the timing of it.
I get Fred's point though, about the fact that he was in the same position, etc. But things are different now than in 2003; who knows how everything could turn out?
Hell, 2011 was different than 2003 and things are definitely not the same as 2011, now.
How are things really different though?
As currently constructed the Bengals are a bottom 5 team and organization, same as when they drafted Palmer. Ownership is a running joke across the league, same as before. Ownership is stuck in pre-free agency NFL
mode, has an owner/GM unwilling to adapt, and tries to nickel and dime their way to success, same as before.
Sure, we have almost 20 years of football played since Palmer was drafted, but the issues facing the team then are virtually the same as now. The coaching staff is arguably far worse than then, and the team still has zero Playoff success. It is entirely reasonable to expect former players to have opinions, and to speak truth to the ineptitude of team ownership. It’s also reasonable to wonder if the potential #1 selection knows all of this and has reservations on signing here. That sucks to say, but why wouldn’t a guy like Burrow wonder about Mike’s commitment to winning? We have 30 years of evidence showing Mike doesn’t seem to value winning above all else.
Through 2023
Mike Brown’s Owner/GM record: 32 years 223-303-4 .419 winning pct.
Playoff Record: 5-9, .357 winning pct.
Zac Taylor coaching record, reg. season: 37-44-1. .455 winning pct.
Playoff Record: 5-2, .714 winning pct.
Mike Brown’s Owner/GM record: 32 years 223-303-4 .419 winning pct.
Playoff Record: 5-9, .357 winning pct.
Zac Taylor coaching record, reg. season: 37-44-1. .455 winning pct.
Playoff Record: 5-2, .714 winning pct.