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Palmer v Burrow
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(02-18-2020, 11:29 AM)bengals67 Wrote: I would like to get some comments from many of the folks on the board who have a better memory than me ( and know a lot more)

I am not one to bad mouth Carson. He was a tremendous young QB when he started with the Bengals.  I understand why he was frustrated with Mike Brown. Same reasons that many of us are frustrated with Mike Brown.

But do I recall correctly that some of the scouting reports on Palmer coming out of college questioned whether he had the best leadership personality?

Leadership and confidence seem to be two of the major qualities I am reading about Burrow.

Is it possible that Burrow has the "it" quality that Carson lacked?

Thoughts?

Dalton had that it factor but couldn't get his actual game to the next level without a strong supporting cast around him. 

I don't know how Burrow will be here because LSU had one of the best D, one of the best OL and strong supporting cast for him to achieve his success. Yes there were times it was on Burrow to make the play but he didn't achieve that success alone. It was a team effort. 

Looking at Dalton his bad years the team lacked any true burner to open up the field, the OL was horrible and simply couldn't block, etc... the years the team had solid OL play, strong to decent D, Dalton performed well enough to get his team to the playoffs. Again the team failed in the playoffs because failure by the team should never be put on one player; everyone has a chance to make that difference between a win or a loss. Missing filed goals, failing a block, a RB that doesn't hit the hole to get the gain, etc... 

As for CP vs. Burrow; CP was a quiet leader. As he aged he started to be more vocal. The more vocal excited QB who take leadership roles early tend to have success earlier and continue that in their career. QB that hold every member accountable for their mistakes also seem to have better success. Brady and Manning are prime examples of players who were not only vocal but also held team mates accountable for their mistakes have had long and productive careers. 

For me CP and Dalton don't seem to use their leadership make team mates accountable for their mistakes, which has had a negative impact on the team ability to get a playoff win. 

Both offense and defense needs a leader that makes their team mates aware of the mistakes and work with their team mates to correct them. On the offensive side of the ball it is typically the QB job and if it falls to another player the team doesn't gel and tends not to get the wins. 

As for the D; it use to be the MLB that did this; now it seems as if this is now falling into the hands of the defensive backs. 

Burrow ability to lead will be welcomed. Hopefully he can be vocal and make everyone on the offense accountable for their mistakes to help improve the team and get the offense to gel if Burrow is drafted by the Bengals. 
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Palmer v Burrow - bengals67 - 02-18-2020, 11:29 AM
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