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(10-13-2015, 09:14 AM)djs7685 Wrote: Either the coaches are stupid for letting a non-dynamic returner taking it out from the very back of the endzone time and time again, or Tate is stupid for doing so.

The Tate defenders seem to be a lot of the guys that blindly defend the coaching staff, sooooooooo, who do you throw under the bus in this situation?

We don't have mid-2000's Devin Hester back there, we can't pretend those were good decisions.

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(10-14-2015, 11:15 AM)fredtoast Wrote: You have this completely backwards.  There is a trade off between height and distance.  Line drive kicks travel farther.  That is why you will often here that longer field goals are easier to block.  They are kicked at a lower trajectory in order to make them travel farther.

Kick returners are often told to count from the time the ball is kicked off.  Their decision to return or not is based on how long the kick was in the air instead of how deep it goes into the end zone.

Maybe Tate's problem is that he counts to slow.

False.  Lined kicks don't have the hang time to travel as far, or typically the force to keep the trajectory to get them that far.

Just because you kick something lower with force, doesn't mean that it has enough force to go on forever.  

Conversely, a high kick won't have the distance but will have the hang time.

With the new kicking line, taking a kickoff out from the back of the endzone isn't like it used to be.

If you want to use your counting theory, then either Tate can't count or he's just plain stupid because I doubt that the coaches would be telling him to take it out of the endzone in those situations.  
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Tate Hate - Bilbo Saggins - 10-09-2015, 12:57 AM
RE: Tate Hate - The Caped Crusader - 10-09-2015, 01:10 AM
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