pick 33 big board

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(04-02-2020, 10:54 AM)Whatever Wrote: That's a nice try, but we all know that the big boards on the draft sims are based on those sites prospect rankings.

Quit ducking the question.  Would you take Phillips at 33?  If you thought Queen was better all along, why did you take Phillips instead?


Queen played very well in the CFP.  However, he did very little all year up to that point.  You have to win a bunch of regular season games to get to that spot.  I want guys that thrive under pressure, too, but I want them to be good-great all the time.  I don't want guys that are mediocre 13 out of 16 games.  Which leads us to another point.  Queen wasn't even considered the best LB on his team going into the CFP.  In a loaded defense with guys like Stingley, Delpit, etc. how much focus do you really think OU and Clemson put on neutralizing Patrick Queen?  Props to him for making plays,but there's no way he was hugely focused on.

8 carries for 60 yards is not shutting the QB down in the run game.  Second, trying to attribute it solely to one player like you did is just dumb.  Third, Lawrence did not beat a bunch of teams with his legs, as you originally claimed.  Fourth, cherry picking one game as an example and then trying to exclude individual plays on top of that goes to show how flimsy your argument is.  Fifth, nobody is saying that LSU didn't defend Lawrence better in the run game than OSU.  I was illustrating just how much you can manipulate statistics by selectively excluding data like you were.  Sixth, if you were a DC and just watched a QB run wild, you would probably focus on it more in your game plan than a team who hadn't seen him do anything remotely close to that all year.
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The "hype man" comment was solely in response to your "All 33 teams..." line.  You have no idea what teams' boards look like and where they have him rated.  To claim something like that is purely just being a hype man.  If you can show me all 32 teams boards and they all have Queen in the 1st/early 2nd range, I'll gladly take it back.

Welcome to the banned list.  Trying to discuss Queen at #33 with you becomes an exercise in dancing in all sorts of directions.  Where did I have Phillips at #33?  That was the first pick in the 3rd round.  I like Queen based on how he improved as his season went along and how he played his best at the highest level.  As far as selecting any specific data sets to try and prove my point, all you had to do was watch the game.  

from PFF (people that actually get paid to evaluate players):  

"Queen qualifies as one of the biggest breakout players in college football after playing only 255 snaps in his career prior to 2019. He was a player who certainly made a name for himself with his play down the stretch as he racked up nine stops in the College Football Playoffs. Queen is very slightly built at his listed 6-1, 227 pounds and more closely resembles a defensive back than a linebacker at this point. Such is the way the NFL game is going though. Unlike some of the other undersized backers on this list, Queen isn’t quite as long or as explosive at this point to explain it away.

While he may not be a complete linebacker, Queen excels in the right area: coverage. He is about as smooth as it gets at the position and only allowed 24-34 targets for 186 yards and 12 first downs last season. Those are as good a collection of stats as you’ll see in coverage at the linebacker position in this draft."


And that is exactly what I want for the Bengals.  A speedy OLB that can cover.  


Don't bother to reply unless you like to continue to piss in the wind.