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(04-26-2020, 08:21 PM)TJHoushmandzadehs Shiny Shoes Wrote: I'll stick my head above the parapet and say I don't believe it was a great draft from Tobin. I don't dislike this year's picks but his recent drafts (Price, Ogbuehi, Ross etc) have been so poor we had the considerable advantage of the first pick of each round and Burrow aside - who fell into his lap and was a no-brainer - I don't think he especially capitalized on it.

A great draft would have involved trading back on days 2 and 3 and still getting the same (or equivalent) players later on in the round and accumulating additional picks to plug other holes on the roster. A great draft would be drafting multiple players a round later than they should have gone. A great draft would have been moving on Dalton (and Eifert and Dalton really should have been dealt before the trade deadline last year). If we're talking great rather than merely adequate that's the type of thing that would have happened. Instead we pretty much drafted everyone the round they were slated to go when we had the first pick in every round. That's maybe value rather than great value. We've got better but every team gets better in the draft.


So I'd say that was closer to adequate than great. Burrow aside (and I don't credit Tobin with him) we didn't hit it out the park: we hit a single. That's still better than striking out and moves us forward by putting a man on base but he hasn't rounded home which would be completing the rebuild. Maybe Higgins or one of the linebackers will develop into a superstar and be a steal (and a steal would obviously move the runner into scoring position for next year's draft) but with our O-line I think we still have a way to go and will need a couple of hits in next year's draft to score.

I’ll argue, but kudos for being different and not JPoore different.

Literally the only reach we had in this draft was Logan Wilson, and he was a polarizing prospect. Some had him as the 3rd best lb some had him a 4th round prospect. He was in the 110s in player rankings.

We will all keep track of Pittman and mims when comparing to Higgins. Mims was the only player who “slid” to the end of the second who has similar measurables, so trading down 10 picks or so may not have worked since the colts were staring Higgins down with the next pick and with colts fans as relatives I can tell you he would not have been there if we traded down.

Literally every player we picked was drafted at least 1 round later than they should have, and they help address a position they wanted to overhaul. The DE we took in the 5th is a power edge that will be a big contributor at stopping the run, and giving that position more youth was a good move.

Bailey was a 2nd round talent we got in the 7th because of injuries. If he can stay healthy we got a starter in the last round, and if he can’t stay reasonably healthy we aren’t out much.

I agree we should have moved Dalton for almost anything. The way this draft came out an extra 6th may have been real gold.

I worry about the o line too, but maybe adeniji works his way into a starting guard and Fred Johnson emerges. You can’t solve every problem in one offseason but they certainly overhauled the worst position group by far.
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