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(04-26-2020, 08:21 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: I'll stick my head above the parapet and say I don't believe it was a great draft from Tobin. I don't dislike this year's picks but his recent drafts (Price, Ogbuehi, Ross etc) have been so poor we had the considerable advantage of the first pick of each round and Burrow aside - who fell into his lap and was a no-brainer - I don't think he especially capitalized on it.

A great draft would have involved trading back on days 2 and 3 and still getting the same (or equivalent) players later on in the round and accumulating additional picks to plug other holes on the roster. A great draft would be drafting multiple players a round later than they should have gone. A great draft would have been moving on Dalton (and Eifert and Dalton really should have been dealt before the trade deadline last year). If we're talking great rather than merely adequate that's the type of thing that would have happened. Instead we pretty much drafted everyone the round they were slated to go when we had the first pick in every round. That's maybe value rather than great value. We've got better but every team gets better in the draft.


So I'd say that was closer to adequate than great. Burrow aside (and I don't credit Tobin with him) we didn't hit it out the park: we hit a single. That's still better than striking out and moves us forward by putting a man on base but he hasn't rounded home which would be completing the rebuild. Maybe Higgins or one of the linebackers will develop into a superstar and be a steal (and a steal would obviously move the runner into scoring position for next year's draft) but with our O-line I think we still have a way to go and will need a couple of hits in next year's draft to score.

You make the assumption that we had the opportunity to move back and pick up more picks.  It takes 2 teams to do that and the value proposed was likely not worth staying put.  Hindsight is always 20/20.  I'd much prefer to stand pat and grab somebody above their draft grade than to pick up and extra late round pick and possibly miss on 2 guys that don't fit your scheme.
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Duke Tobin - GreenCornBengal - 04-26-2020, 06:23 PM
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