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Joe speaks out
(05-31-2020, 06:08 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/chicago-police-department-consent-decree-black-lives-matter-resistance.html

First, note the title of the article:New Data Shows Police Use More Force Against Black Citizens Even Though Whites Resist More

As for the point of it all:
And this points out a huge issue with this topic, and political topics on the whole.

I'll bet you didn't even take the time to read the article.  

This article is one of the most obvious attempts at starting at a conclusion and then trying to manipulate and omit statistics to support that conclusion that I've ever seen.  

First, a massive piece of data he completely omits and ignores is the total number of instances of resisting arrest by group.  

How he attempts to prove his point is he took the case data for each group in which the level of resistance is graded on a scale from 1-6 by his source.  He then admittedly created his own scale that goes from 1-4 because the 1-6 scale is "too complicated" and graded the level of resistance in each case according to his scale.  He then made up a 1-4 scale on the level of police action and graded the police action in each case based on his scale.  
His conclusion was then reached by comparing the % of times the police used force he graded as a 3-4 against levels of resistance he graded as a 1-2 and by comparing the % of 1  + 2 resistance cases by group.  However, comparing 1+2 resistance rate percentage by group is utterly worthless without factoring in the number of 0 resistance cases when trying to decide whether one group shows more or less resistance.  Comparing the combined % of level 1-2 resistance vs the combined % of 3-4 level force is also silly, because if one group tends more towards level 2 than 1, they will obviously be met with more force by police.  The only real point he made that MAY have some validity is that police responded to lethal force from suspects with lethal force more often in cases with African American suspects, but it's still 43%(less than half the time) compared to 28% only thing he will say about rates between the groups is African Americans have a "slightly higher" percentage of using lethal force than whites, but gives us no numbers to quantify what "slightly higher" is.  And after all this guy's stat manipulation, the best he could come up where differences ranging from 2 to 3.5% 

I also defy anyone to go to the slate.com homepage and come to the conclusion that this is relatively neutral journalistic website.

But lack of journalistic integrity is a huge issue today.  Instead of reporting facts so the people can make their own informed decision, the report some twisted garbage like this to forward their own agenda.  
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